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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2005

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1993 Accord Timing

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IanEgon007 - 17 Aug 2005 04:34 GMT
I just had my timing belt, seals water pump etc replaced on my 93 accord (I was leaking like crazy from one of those seals) and the first time I got it back I had practically no power from about 0-30MPH. I took it back to the shop the next day and they said that the timing belt was off by a tooth so they fixed it. Now the car has power at low speeds, but it's still not as quick as it was before I took it in. I also notice that my car has a rather low/deep hum to it now 9raher annoying). Almost like if I had a hole in my exhaust or if I was running a non stock muffler.

I personally don’t think they did a 100% perfect job, especially with that low humming noise going on. I was thinking about taking it some place else to get a second opinion, but I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions as to what (if anything) could have been done wrong while replacing the belt.

Thanks.
Michael Pardee - 17 Aug 2005 04:48 GMT
>I just had my timing belt, seals water pump etc replaced on my 93 accord (I
>was leaking like crazy from one of those seals) and the first time I got it
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> Thanks.

The timing belt was put back on one tooth off. It is *way* easier to get it
one tooth off than correct. That will throw the ignition timing off, and now
they've twisted the distributor to compensate for the booboo - but the valve
timing is still off. The shop needs to get the belt on correctly and then
reset the ignition timing. There is no other explanation for the ignition
timing being off after a timing belt change.

Mike
Ianegon007 - 17 Aug 2005 05:13 GMT
> >I just had my timing belt, seals water pump etc replaced on my 93 accord (I
> >was leaking like crazy from one of those seals) and the first time I got it
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> Mike

Mike,

Are you saying that the humming noise is caused by the ignition timing
being off and that they may have just been too lazy to fix it right the
second time? If it wasn't dark, I'd check to see if my distributor has
been played with.

Thanks,

Ian
'Curly Q. Links' - 17 Aug 2005 08:11 GMT
> > >I just had my timing belt, seals water pump etc replaced on my 93 accord (I
> > >was leaking like crazy from one of those seals) and the first time I got it
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> Ian

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The new noise is the timing belt 'singing'. It's too tight. The
distributor should look like it is in the middle of it's 'range' of
adjustment. If it's all the way to the left or right, Michael is exactly
right.

'Curly'
TeGGeR® - 17 Aug 2005 12:50 GMT
> Are you saying that the humming noise is caused by the ignition timing
> being off

That low humming says the timing belt is on way too tight!

That shop that did the work is incompetent.

You'd better get this fixed ASAP. A too-tight belt will fail very quickly.

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Ianegon007 - 18 Aug 2005 02:20 GMT
Thanks for all the replies.

I looked at my distributor and it does look like it was adjusted (Nice
shiny allumimun where the bolts were)

I called the shop I took it to and they said that they will have a
diffrent mechanic look at it. I told them that I did not want the same
mechanic who worked on it the last two times to be the one to fix it.

Hopefully third time is the charm. If not, I'm not sure what I will do.
Leaving my car in a shop for 3 days for a job that should take a
competent mechainc only a couple of hours is getting old.
Ianegon007 - 18 Aug 2005 04:17 GMT
By the way,

If they do happen to do it right this time, will that mean that they
will also move my distributor back to mid way? How will they properly
reset the ignition timing?

Thanks,

Ian
Jason - 18 Aug 2005 16:29 GMT
> By the way,
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> Ian

Ian,
Have you considered buying a timing light and setting the timing. It's
really easy.
Jason

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Michael Pardee - 18 Aug 2005 23:56 GMT
>> By the way,
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> really easy.
> Jason

The concern is that the timing was messed with to band-aid the timing belt
fault. The mechanic really should have known he messed up when he found the
timing off... or maybe he did and hoped you wouldn't notice :-(    It's hard
to get the belt on right without moving the crankshaft a bit because the
valve springs fight you, but it's easy to see if it went on right. Between
that and the overtensioning, the mechanic really screwed the pooch on that
one.

Mike

Mike
 
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