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bltravis - 21 Aug 2005 16:38 GMT

We own a new 2005 Odyssey van. We accidentally filled the tank with E85
(85% ethanol) last night. Well, not really accidentally. We thought we
read that the engine could use it when we were shopping for the car, but
realize we must have been mistaken. We only ran 18 miles on it, and it ran
fine, but we don't want to risk the engine and don't want to void the
warranty.

Questions:

After 18 miles, do you think any damage could have already been done?

We are going to have a local mechanic tow it and siphen out the gas.
Assuming there is no permanent damage is there any way the dealer would know
we used it and thus void our warranty?

Help, we are worried?

LT

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Michael Pardee - 21 Aug 2005 17:05 GMT

> We own a new 2005 Odyssey van. We accidentally filled the tank with E85
> (85% ethanol) last night. Well, not really accidentally. We thought we
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> LT

I wouldn't worry too much. The engine itself should be fine. The biggest
issues with E-85 involve the fuel system - synthetic parts that are made for
gasoline may have limited tolerance for that level of ethanol, but since 15%
ethanol is common (and I believe the Oddy allows that) that isn't a big
issue. If you ran E-85 over a period of a month I'd have more concerns.

BTW - the "check engine" light may come on when you switch back to normal
gasoline, as a result of the ECU getting frustrated with the changes in fuel
characteristics (the usual trouble code text is "fuel trim"). Either have
the mechanic clear the code or drive a week or so until the light goes out
on its own... although that second method may be more wear and tear on your
nerves than you want to go through at the moment!

Mike

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Eric - 22 Aug 2005 10:31 GMT

> I wouldn't worry too much. The engine itself should be fine. The biggest
> issues with E-85 involve the fuel system - synthetic parts that are made
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> Mike

I agree, have the E85 drained or siphoned off and then have the ECU reset.

Eric

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bltravis - 22 Aug 2005 13:24 GMT

Thanks, guys, for putting our minds at ease, and for sparing the time to
give us the advice. We will have have the mechanic siphon the tank and
reset the code if needed

LT

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'Curly Q. Links' - 22 Aug 2005 17:48 GMT

> I agree, have the E85 drained or siphoned off and then have the ECU reset.
>
> Eric

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Eric, you're missing the point . . . .

E85 is 85% GASOLINE, and 15% Ethanol. The OP is totally confused.
Canadians use Gasohol a lot, but it's not quite as high as 15%, I'm
sure. It's not like it's going to be in the system for a year. Diluting
it ONCE would get it below 10%.

Question arises again . . .What does the MANUAL say???

'Curly'

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Steve Bigelow - 23 Aug 2005 00:27 GMT

>> I agree, have the E85 drained or siphoned off and then have the ECU
>> reset.
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> E85 is 85% GASOLINE, and 15% Ethanol.

Nope. Other way around.
http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/e85.php

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'Curly Q. Links' - 23 Aug 2005 05:32 GMT

> >> I agree, have the E85 drained or siphoned off and then have the ECU
> >> reset.
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> Nope. Other way around.
> http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/e85.php

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Bad mistake on my part . . Terribly sorry. :-(

Thanks for the link.

'Curly'

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Jim Yanik - 23 Aug 2005 16:30 GMT

>>> I agree, have the E85 drained or siphoned off and then have the ECU
>>> reset.
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> Nope. Other way around.
> http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/e85.php

I made the same mistake in thinking it was 85%G:15%E,found some websites to
verify it was the opposite.

It even makes sense,else why say *E* 85??
(smacking forehead;DUH)

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Michael Pardee - 23 Aug 2005 00:37 GMT

> Eric, you're missing the point . . . .
>
> E85 is 85% GASOLINE, and 15% Ethanol.

I think it's the other way around: http://www.ethanol.org/

Mike

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Michael Pardee - 23 Aug 2005 00:39 GMT

> E85 is 85% GASOLINE, and 15% Ethanol.

My link missed by a bit: http://www.ethanol.org/e85.html is more to the
point.

Mike <8^P

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'Curly Q. Links' - 21 Aug 2005 19:59 GMT

> We own a new 2005 Odyssey van. We accidentally filled the tank with E85
> (85% ethanol) last night. Well, not really accidentally. We thought we
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> LT

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Your manual says you can use up to x% ethanol, right? What does it say?

My CR-V will take up to 10%, so if you top up the tank again with
'normal' gas, and then use up 1/4 tank and refill again, you'll be OK.
Read the manual about 'topping up', and don't overdo it, since you can
cause other problems, and a fire hazzard. Keep the Ownaer's manual in
the bathroom, so you can all study it.

'Curly'

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bltravis - 24 Aug 2005 02:06 GMT

Hey everyone, Yes I did read the manual, actually twice now. However while

reading material when I first got the van I read somewhere we could handle

it. Of course can't find anything saying it now. Who knows maybe I dreamed

it all up. ANYWAY.

Just got my van back today after it was towed, and drained, and it is

running just fine. The only thing my mechanic said was he had another guy

do the same thing but ran his Tahoe longer than my 18 miles, and a month

later his fuel pump went out.

So all in all we are good to go for now. Will watch for any signs of the

fuel pump, and never again no matter if we get a car that can definitely

handle E85 I will never use it.

It is this simple why didn't they just make the nozzles bigger than unleaded

nozzles so they wouldn't fit in cars that couldn't handle them. That is the

same way the old Regular was. Sounds easy to me, but what do I know I am

just the crazy lady who put the wrong gas in.

Thanks for everyone's help on this.

Becky Travis.

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>> We own a new 2005 Odyssey van. We accidentally filled the tank with E85
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