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Seatbelt ding-ding-ding - 2005 Accord

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RodgerDodger=)i - 06 Sep 2005 20:20 GMT
Is there anyway to turn off the ding ding ding seatbelt warning on the 95
Accord EX?  The light is fine, just the sound.  Thanks
TeGGeR® - 06 Sep 2005 21:25 GMT
"RodgerDodger=\)i" <ddlld23REMOVE@XXcsiREMOVE.com> wrote in
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> Is there anyway to turn off the ding ding ding seatbelt warning on the
> 95 Accord EX?  The light is fine, just the sound.  Thanks

1) Buckle belt behind your back.
2) Go to wrecker's. Cut buckle off old belt. Insert that into receptacle as
desired.

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Larry J. - 06 Sep 2005 22:27 GMT
Waiving the right to remain silent, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m>
said:

> "RodgerDodger=\)i" <ddlld23REMOVE@XXcsiREMOVE.com> wrote in
> news:5ZOdnUf0rph8doDeRVn-iA@giganews.com:
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> 2) Go to wrecker's. Cut buckle off old belt. Insert that into
> receptacle as desired.

Then go kill yourself, taking care not to injure any innocents...

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TeGGeR® - 07 Sep 2005 03:05 GMT
> Waiving the right to remain silent, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m>
> said:
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>
> Then go kill yourself, taking care not to injure any innocents...

You gonna moralize or are you gonna answer his question? Go take your
politics to alt.autos.toyota.

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Grahame - 06 Sep 2005 21:54 GMT
Why not find the source of the ding ding ding and disconnect it?
> Is there anyway to turn off the ding ding ding seatbelt warning on the 95
> Accord EX?  The light is fine, just the sound.  Thanks
TeGGeR® - 07 Sep 2005 02:53 GMT
>> Is there anyway to turn off the ding ding ding seatbelt warning on
>> the 95 Accord EX?  The light is fine, just the sound.  Thanks
>
> Why not find the source of the ding ding ding and disconnect it?

Harder than it sounds. It means removing the Integrated Control Module from
its (very good) hiding place, and putting a wood screw in the speaker to
stop the diaphragm from vibrating. This is what I've done with my Integra.

I was going to just unsolder the speaker and replace it with a resistor,
but I don't know how to determine the rating of resistor that would be
needed.

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Grahame - 07 Sep 2005 21:50 GMT
Why would you need to replace the speaker with a resistor?

> >> Is there anyway to turn off the ding ding ding seatbelt warning on
> >> the 95 Accord EX?  The light is fine, just the sound.  Thanks
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> but I don't know how to determine the rating of resistor that would be
> needed.
TeGGeR® - 07 Sep 2005 22:52 GMT
>> I was going to just unsolder the speaker and replace it with a
>> resistor, but I don't know how to determine the rating of resistor
>> that would be needed.
>
> Why would you need to replace the speaker with a resistor?

I supposed that the module would expect some sort of current and resistance
to be present in that location, otherwise problems may arise.

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Grahame - 09 Sep 2005 00:31 GMT
If you just removed the speaker from the circuit I do not see this causing
any problems, I doubt the engineers would design a "speaker missing detect
circuit". This is a lot easier than using your method of killing the sound.
A speaker is considered an inductive load and the resistance would
essentially be zero.
Grahame

> >> I was going to just unsolder the speaker and replace it with a
> >> resistor, but I don't know how to determine the rating of resistor
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> I supposed that the module would expect some sort of current and resistance
> to be present in that location, otherwise problems may arise.
Doug McCrary - 09 Sep 2005 05:16 GMT
> If you just removed the speaker from the circuit I do not see this causing
> any problems, I doubt the engineers would design a "speaker missing detect
> circuit". This is a lot easier than using your method of killing the sound.
> A speaker is considered an inductive load and the resistance would
> essentially be zero.
> Grahame
Can't blame "TeGGeR®" for erring on the side of caution, but I'm inclined to
agree with you.
However, suppose the "speaker" is piezo? Probably your main argument still
applies, but
the resistance would be way high, rather than nearly zero.
TeGGeR® - 09 Sep 2005 12:44 GMT
>> If you just removed the speaker from the circuit I do not see this
>> causing any problems, I doubt the engineers would design a "speaker
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>
> Can't blame "TeGGeR®" for erring on the side of caution,

Ignorance breeds caution, hence my decision to simply hand-tighten a short
#8 wood screw against the metal diaphragm through the hole in the speaker's
plastic top. I can undo this any time I want.

> but I'm
> inclined to agree with you.
> However, suppose the "speaker" is piezo?

In this case, it is. It's the same sort of "speaker" you find on computer
modems and motherboards. It's maybe a half-inch across, and three-eighths
thick.

> Probably your main argument
> still applies, but
> the resistance would be way high, rather than nearly zero.

Thus requiring a resistor?

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Grahame - 09 Sep 2005 19:06 GMT
Well TeGGeR, I have been an electronics technician for over 25 years now and
I know exactly the type of speaker you are talking about, remove the speaker
and you have an open circuit, the computer would function normally trust me.
Grahame

> >> If you just removed the speaker from the circuit I do not see this
> >> causing any problems, I doubt the engineers would design a "speaker
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>
> Thus requiring a resistor?
Doug McCrary - 10 Sep 2005 07:10 GMT
> "Doug McCrary" <DougMcCrary@spamcop.net> wrote
> In this case, it is. It's the same sort of "speaker" you find on computer
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Thus requiring a resistor?

Unlikely. As Grahame says, there's probably no 'sense' circuit, and either way,
it's unlikely to cause anything to burn up.
High power stuff that might fail to to over/underload usually has the sensing.
Most other stuff is designed to handle anything from a dead short to open
without fail.
TeGGeR® - 10 Sep 2005 12:25 GMT
>> "Doug McCrary" <DougMcCrary@spamcop.net> wrote
>> In this case, it is. It's the same sort of "speaker" you find on
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> sensing. Most other stuff is designed to handle anything from a dead
> short to open without fail.

Thaks.

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T L - 06 Sep 2005 22:14 GMT
use it the way it was designed... :)

>Is there anyway to turn off the ding ding ding seatbelt warning on the 95
>Accord EX?  The light is fine, just the sound.  Thanks
mopa - 06 Sep 2005 22:17 GMT
Seat belts save lifes, so buckup!
RodgerDodger=)i - 06 Sep 2005 23:28 GMT
Yes, thanks.  I buckle everywhere.  Everywhere, except, my 140 home
neighborhood that I drive 2mph mailbox to mailbox to deliver association
fliers (not in the mailbox of course for you postal inspectors) and the
seatbelt straps me in so well, I cannot reach out far enough to make a safe
delivery.  So, for the 2 hour period once per month, I was hoping to to be
ding free.

> Seat belts save lifes, so buckup!

Yes, thanks.  I buckle everywhere.  Everywhere, except, my 140 home
neighborhood that I drive 2mph mailbox to mailbox to deliver association
fliers (not in the mailbox of course for you postal inspectors) and the
seatbelt straps me in so well, I cannot reach out far enough to make a safe
delivery.  So, for the 2 hour period once per month, I was hoping to to be
ding free.
Elle - 06 Sep 2005 23:46 GMT
Ha. RodgerDodger shut you yahoos down... lol

> Yes, thanks.  I buckle everywhere.  Everywhere, except, my 140 home
> neighborhood that I drive 2mph mailbox to mailbox to deliver association
> fliers (not in the mailbox of course for you postal inspectors) and the
> seatbelt straps me in so well, I cannot reach out far enough to make a safe
> delivery.  So, for the 2 hour period once per month, I was hoping to to be
> ding free.
Dave Kelsen - 07 Sep 2005 00:52 GMT
On 9/6/2005 5:28 PM RodgerDodger=)i spake these words of knowledge:

> Yes, thanks.  I buckle everywhere.  Everywhere, except, my 140 home
> neighborhood that I drive 2mph mailbox to mailbox to deliver association
> fliers (not in the mailbox of course for you postal inspectors) and the
> seatbelt straps me in so well, I cannot reach out far enough to make a safe
> delivery.  So, for the 2 hour period once per month, I was hoping to to be
> ding free.

As someone said, buckle it behind you.  No problem.

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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Harry - 06 Sep 2005 23:15 GMT
Wear it stupid!!!!

> Is there anyway to turn off the ding ding ding seatbelt warning on the 95
> Accord EX?  The light is fine, just the sound.  Thanks
Brian Smith - 07 Sep 2005 00:05 GMT
> Is there anyway to turn off the ding ding ding seatbelt warning on the 95
> Accord EX?  The light is fine, just the sound.  Thanks

The smartest way to disable the sound is to wear the seatbelt. That way you
won't become disabled.

Brian
Erik Nelson - 08 Sep 2005 01:59 GMT
I suggest swapping the wiring on the plug under the seat to swap the
normally open/normally closed contacts. That way it will only annoy people
who buckle/use the seat belt. If you just unplug the connector, it will flag
an SRS error which will have to be manually cleared.

> Is there anyway to turn off the ding ding ding seatbelt warning on the 95
> Accord EX?  The light is fine, just the sound.  Thanks
 
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