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Car Forum / Honda Cars / September 2005

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EGR System on Odysseys

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Phyl/Ron Johnson - 06 Sep 2005 22:17 GMT
 Just received an extension on my '00 Odyssey for EGR System
Clogging/EGR Valve Contamination for up to 8 years/80,000 miles.
 My Odyssey has 70,000 miles and I am wondering if this system problem
is occuring with regularity among you folks.
 Have been told that they will not do anything unless the engine
malfunction comes on and stays on.  
 Would appreciate any assistance on how to get this taken care of even
though it has not become a problem to date.
  Ron
bearman - 06 Sep 2005 23:26 GMT
>  Just received an extension on my '00 Odyssey for EGR System
> Clogging/EGR Valve Contamination for up to 8 years/80,000 miles.
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> though it has not become a problem to date.
>   Ron

I've not received anything yet.

Bearman
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 07 Sep 2005 00:23 GMT
>   Just received an extension on my '00 Odyssey for EGR System
> Clogging/EGR Valve Contamination for up to 8 years/80,000 miles.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> though it has not become a problem to date.
>    Ron

http://www.odyclub.com
Woody - 07 Sep 2005 00:23 GMT
Go to www.odyclub.com and search the forum for EGR. There is tons of
information. The EGR problem usually starts up with erratic engine trying to
maintain 40-50 mph under light load. There is also a TSL on your Ody to
insert a sleeve in the port to stop the buildup. All covered in the above
forum....

>  Just received an extension on my '00 Odyssey for EGR System
> Clogging/EGR Valve Contamination for up to 8 years/80,000 miles.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> though it has not become a problem to date.
>   Ron
Paul - 07 Sep 2005 02:19 GMT
:   Just received an extension on my '00 Odyssey for EGR System
: Clogging/EGR Valve Contamination for up to 8 years/80,000 miles.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
: though it has not become a problem to date.
:    Ron

I had a problem with the EGR valve on my '01 Odyssey last fall (rough
running, Check Engine light, TCS light). Took it to the dealer, who told me
the valve was defective (not just clogged). They wanted to charge me about
$250 to replace it, but I asked my service advisor (nicely) if there was
something they could do about that price, given that this was a known issue
with the valve. I was told that my van wasn't one of those included in the
then-current TSB (based on VIN), but the dealership agreed to replace the
valve for free as a goodwill gesture. This was before the warranty extension
came out (I have since received notification of the extension in the mail).

I believed at the time, and still do, that this was one of those "secret
warranty" deals under which a manufacturer fixes a problem at a consumer's
request, without actually coming out and admitting any real responsibility.
Whatever the case, it got fixed and didn't cost me.

If you're not having any problems, don't worry about it. But if and when you
do, I would politely but firmly insist that Honda take care of it, and
pursue it up the line if the dealer refuses.

Paul
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 07 Sep 2005 03:00 GMT
> but I asked my service advisor (nicely) if there was
> something they could do about that price, given that this was a known issue
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> warranty" deals under which a manufacturer fixes a problem at a consumer's
> request, without actually coming out and admitting any real responsibility.

It may not be.

Many people don't realize that Honda gives every dealer some dollars to
work with every month, to take care of stupid things that shouldn't have
happened.  For example, a few months ago I got a new idle air control
valve in my 02 Odyssey--at 35K miles and 42 months.

Why?  Because I'm a helluva good customer for this dealership, that's
why.  The service manager had no problem using those Honda dollars to
pay for this repair; he had no problem justifying it to Honda should
they ask.

These service dollars are doled out by the service manager working in
conjunction with the factory rep.

You might have gotten in on something like that.
Phyl/Ron Johnson - 07 Sep 2005 15:55 GMT
 I called the Honda Dealership and talked to a service advisor after
learning the service manager was out for the rest of the day.  The
advisor said that unless the engine light was on, or the engine was
running roughly, they couldn't do anything.
 So, the next morning I called the service Manager who took my VIN on
the van and he said, bring it in and we will change it out.  No
questions, no problem.
 I have found that the service managers do a lot of things for "good
will" and it works for me as we will continue to buy Honda.  
 Thanks to all of you for your imput on this subject.
              Ron
Woody - 08 Sep 2005 00:31 GMT
Actually it is a TSL on 99 and 00 Odyssey that Honda covers. They drill out
the pores and insert a tube to hopefully keep it from building up in the
future. They have also extended the EGR warranty for all 99-03 Ody's because
of lots of problems...

>  I called the Honda Dealership and talked to a service advisor after
> learning the service manager was out for the rest of the day.  The
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>  Thanks to all of you for your imput on this subject.
>               Ron
Bob Palmer - 07 Sep 2005 02:30 GMT
I have a 2000 Odyssey EX -66900 miles-no problems with EGR or transmission.
>  Just received an extension on my '00 Odyssey for EGR System
> Clogging/EGR Valve Contamination for up to 8 years/80,000 miles.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> though it has not become a problem to date.
>   Ron
Fred - 09 Sep 2005 02:36 GMT
I received the same letter and got the valve changed out.  I had the jerky
acceleration cited in the letter but I decided to live with it until I
received the info on the letter.  I never had the engine light come on but
replacing the valve got rid of my acceleration problem.  No charge from the
dealer.  Strange it wasn't a recall.

I have a 2002 Odyssey.

>  Just received an extension on my '00 Odyssey for EGR System
> Clogging/EGR Valve Contamination for up to 8 years/80,000 miles.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> though it has not become a problem to date.
>   Ron
Leonard Caillouet - 10 Sep 2005 12:29 GMT
My 2000 never had any symptoms but the check engine light came on with an
EGR flow code.  It had 82K miles on it.  Honda and the dealer were very
responsive and did it at N/C when I asked for an accomodation.

Leonard

> I received the same letter and got the valve changed out.  I had the jerky
> acceleration cited in the letter but I decided to live with it until I
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>> though it has not become a problem to date.
>>   Ron
 
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