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Who Will Mod My 2001 Civic?

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mahadragon@gmail.com - 12 Sep 2005 11:27 GMT
Need advice on reasonably inexpensive place that will perform mods on
my 2001 Civic LX Coupe. I realize for AEM Cold air intake I could do it
myself but I don't have any experience and I ain't doin it. Also, I may
decide to get some headers at some point and I'm definitely not doing
that.
Snowboard3r - 12 Sep 2005 16:26 GMT
dude those are simple simple installs!!  Headers are cake!  The biggest
thing you have to worry about with the headers is the gasket, and serioulsy
you can't mess it up.  Cold air intake is pretty easy also, all it is, is
pulling out the Honda airbox and throwing it in.  It isn't hard.  Anyone
could do it!!

> Need advice on reasonably inexpensive place that will perform mods on
> my 2001 Civic LX Coupe. I realize for AEM Cold air intake I could do it
> myself but I don't have any experience and I ain't doin it. Also, I may
> decide to get some headers at some point and I'm definitely not doing
> that.
Jim Yanik - 12 Sep 2005 17:44 GMT
> Need advice on reasonably inexpensive place that will perform mods on
> my 2001 Civic LX Coupe. I realize for AEM Cold air intake I could do it
> myself but I don't have any experience and I ain't doin it. Also, I may
> decide to get some headers at some point and I'm definitely not doing
> that.

Check out your local automotive sport shops,particularly the ones
specializing in imports.Ask around.
The Yellow Pages should be a big help.

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Jamco - 12 Sep 2005 21:38 GMT
May want to just buy a better car, as the civic is a very slow car, and
after you add an air intake and headers, it will still be a very slow car

> Need advice on reasonably inexpensive place that will perform mods on
> my 2001 Civic LX Coupe. I realize for AEM Cold air intake I could do it
> myself but I don't have any experience and I ain't doin it. Also, I may
> decide to get some headers at some point and I'm definitely not doing
> that.
mahadragon@gmail.com - 12 Sep 2005 23:39 GMT
A newer (faster) car will run at least $15,000. A new set of headers
and cold air intake will be well under $1000. Case closed. I'm not made
of money.
Jim Yanik - 13 Sep 2005 02:05 GMT
> A newer (faster) car will run at least $15,000. A new set of headers
> and cold air intake will be well under $1000. Case closed. I'm not made
> of money.

You might gain 10 HP from a cold air intake,and -maybe- another 10 from a
low-restriction exhaust(you need more than just headers;a free-flow
catalytic and cat-back exhaust piping and muffler.)

Headers will be useless without the other exhaust mods.

And if you have an auto transmission....what's the point?

BTW,I bought a Bomz cold air-intake off Ebay for US$60.00 -including
shipping.
It was easy to install.(94 Integra GSR)

Your ambient noise will increase greatly.

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Jamco - 13 Sep 2005 20:48 GMT
the headers will do NOTHING on their own, so that is a waste of money. And
the cold air intake, will probably get you like 2-4hp, unless you combine it
with other mods.  You would be better off giving your money to me, because
what your planning will acheive nothing

>A newer (faster) car will run at least $15,000. A new set of headers
> and cold air intake will be well under $1000. Case closed. I'm not made
> of money.
Jim Yanik - 14 Sep 2005 00:10 GMT
> the headers will do NOTHING on their own, so that is a waste of money.
> And the cold air intake, will probably get you like 2-4hp, unless you
> combine it with other mods.  You would be better off giving your money
> to me, because what your planning will acheive nothing

Honda Tuning Magazine did dyno tests on several short rams,two cold air
intakes (CAI) and the K&N filter alone,on an RSX;the short rams got 5-7
HP,both CAIs made 20 HP,and the K&N filter got zero.That was on a 2.0?
liter motor,OEM rated at 185 HP,IIRC.

If his motor is 1.6 liters,then HP gains would be proportionally less.
Still worthwhile,IMO.

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Jamco - 14 Sep 2005 20:46 GMT
If you go to clubrsx.com  you will see that usually adding a cold air intake
really only adds about 6HP(when adding to the 210HP type s), so adding on to
a civic(127HP), would probably be around 2-4HP

>> the headers will do NOTHING on their own, so that is a waste of money.
>> And the cold air intake, will probably get you like 2-4hp, unless you
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> If his motor is 1.6 liters,then HP gains would be proportionally less.
> Still worthwhile,IMO.
Jim Yanik - 15 Sep 2005 01:04 GMT
> If you go to clubrsx.com  you will see that usually adding a cold air
> intake really only adds about 6HP(when adding to the 210HP type s), so
> adding on to a civic(127HP), would probably be around 2-4HP

IIRC,the Honda Tuning(HTM) article was on a standard RSX.
The -S model may already have a less-restrictive intake.(as part of gaining
that extra HP)
HTM well-documented their findings.It was quite a good article.
I suspect that a Civic would gain a useful amount of power.
After all,that is one of the most BASIC of mods that racers use to get more
HP.I believe its the FIRST thing they do.

>>> the headers will do NOTHING on their own, so that is a waste of
>>> money. And the cold air intake, will probably get you like 2-4hp,
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>> If his motor is 1.6 liters,then HP gains would be proportionally
>> less. Still worthwhile,IMO.

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Jamco - 16 Sep 2005 23:13 GMT
well who knowes, each particualar car is different.  He'd have to get his
car dyno'd before and after and see what it does for him.
But I agree, CAI, usually followed by exhaust, and race header are the
basics.  The 3 work well together

>> If you go to clubrsx.com  you will see that usually adding a cold air
>> intake really only adds about 6HP(when adding to the 210HP type s), so
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>>> If his motor is 1.6 liters,then HP gains would be proportionally
>>> less. Still worthwhile,IMO.
Chris B - 14 Sep 2005 04:56 GMT
> May want to just buy a better car, as the civic is a very slow car, and
> after you add an air intake and headers, it will still be a very slow car
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>>decide to get some headers at some point and I'm definitely not doing
>>that.

I have to agree with you on the intake and the header swap.  IMHO that
is a waste of money for the performance gained.

Now, I know a kid here in town that did a GSR swap into his older civic,
and that thing flies.  Don't know what kind of times he gets, but I do
know that his civic is WAY faster than my Wife's 97 stock Civic EX
Coupe.  If the OP has about $5,000 to blow, a JDM GSR swap may be within
his reach to make his Civic a "little" quicker.  Just don't pick on any
Vettes with it because I watch this kid lose horribly to a Vette.

As for me, I am turning into an old geezer.  If it doesn't come that way
from the factory, that is the way it stays.  My only two exceptions are:

1.  Crappy stock radios and speakers, they have to go.
2.  Dark tinted windows due to a "sun allergy" and melanoma.

Chris B.
2000 Honda Accord EX V-6 Coupe
1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe
Snowboard3r - 13 Sep 2005 06:24 GMT
There are quite a few things you can do to civic's to "rice" them up.  If
you are going to do Cold Air Intake and Headers you might as well add
Exhaust and underdrive pullies, and a throttle body spacer (depending on
what intake u use), then you can get some hookups for the computer and use a
laptop and configure your VTEC, and shift points, among other things.  Like
I noticed in another post, you aren't going to get alot of power increase
with a few things, you need to seriously overhaul it all to get some power,
plus weight reductions etc etc.

Shane

> Need advice on reasonably inexpensive place that will perform mods on
> my 2001 Civic LX Coupe. I realize for AEM Cold air intake I could do it
> myself but I don't have any experience and I ain't doin it. Also, I may
> decide to get some headers at some point and I'm definitely not doing
> that.
jim beam - 13 Sep 2005 06:41 GMT
> There are quite a few things you can do to civic's to "rice" them up.  If
> you are going to do Cold Air Intake and Headers you might as well add
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>
> Shane

none of that makes as much difference as cams.  and to run those to best
advantage, you need to rebuild the bottom end and re-spring the valves.
 and reset the rev limiter....

>>Need advice on reasonably inexpensive place that will perform mods on
>>my 2001 Civic LX Coupe. I realize for AEM Cold air intake I could do it
>>myself but I don't have any experience and I ain't doin it. Also, I may
>>decide to get some headers at some point and I'm definitely not doing
>>that.
Jim Yanik - 13 Sep 2005 15:42 GMT
>> There are quite a few things you can do to civic's to "rice" them up.
>>  If you are going to do Cold Air Intake and Headers you might as well
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> valves.
>   and reset the rev limiter....

Probably better to turbocharge it.You can use a modest boost and get good
power gains without rebuilding the whole motor.
Changing cams alters(reduces) the drivability of it under ordinary driving.

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jim beam - 14 Sep 2005 05:02 GMT
>>>There are quite a few things you can do to civic's to "rice" them up.
>>> If you are going to do Cold Air Intake and Headers you might as well
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> power gains without rebuilding the whole motor.
> Changing cams alters(reduces) the drivability of it under ordinary driving.

blown sucks.
 
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