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myramawa@aol.com - 18 Sep 2005 17:56 GMT
Hello
We can together something do for the rain forest and our oxygen!
So look on www.6606.forestation.biz
Much fun with read the page and a positive decision!
A. Mayer
TeGGeR® - 19 Sep 2005 03:29 GMT
> Hello
> We can together something do for the rain forest and our oxygen!
> So look on www.6606.forestation.biz
> Much fun with read the page and a positive decision!
> A. Mayer

Most of the earth's atmospheric free oxygen comes from water evaporation,
which covers about 80% of the earth's surface. The rain forest is a net-
zero contributor to atmospheric oxygen.

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Enrico Fermi - 19 Sep 2005 12:18 GMT
>> Hello
>> We can together something do for the rain forest and our oxygen!
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> which covers about 80% of the earth's surface. The rain forest is a net-
> zero contributor to atmospheric oxygen.

Cite your source. BTW, water does not evaporate to its constituent
molecules. It evaporates to gaseous H2O. Our atmosphere would burn
constantly, like the Hindenburg, if your theory were true.
Michael Pardee - 19 Sep 2005 13:37 GMT
>>> Hello
>>> We can together something do for the rain forest and our oxygen!
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> molecules. It evaporates to gaseous H2O. Our atmosphere would burn
> constantly, like the Hindenburg, if your theory were true.

The O2 comes from algae and cyanobacteria photosynthesis. Algae and bacteria
are more effective because of the chemistry of photosynthesis: the carbon is
used from the air to create carbohydrates, which are either reused
(releasing CO2 again) or are used for building the plant structure. Woody
perennials, like trees, need less for the plant structure while short-lived
algae and bacteria need the most (high school biology).

I don't have any links for the relative amounts - I haven't looked that up
in years - but I'm quite sure it's accurate. Well, not the "evaporation"
part, but I have trouble with words at times, too! Currently I'm looking for
world livestock census for the last century or so, looking for the source of
atmospheric CO2 rise. I've pretty much ruled out deforestation as a major
cause. That's partly for the reason TeGGeR cites, partly because
deforestation of the Middle East (which was on a far larger scale than South
American deforestation has been) didn't produce the rise we are seeing, and
partly for lag times and other numbers issues. If anybody has any good
sources on that, I'll appreciate them.

Mike
TeGGeR® - 19 Sep 2005 18:41 GMT
>>> Hello
>>> We can together something do for the rain forest and our oxygen!
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> molecules. It evaporates to gaseous H2O. Our atmosphere would burn
> constantly, like the Hindenburg, if your theory were true.

Free oxygen and oxygen bound with hydrogen atoms are not the same thing.

Water (bound oxygen/hydrogen combination) also contains free oxygen that is
not bound. It is this which is released on evaporation.
http://www.agu.org/revgeophys/sleep00/node8.html

If you were to try to crack the water molecule into its constituent atoms,
this would requires vast amounts of energy. More, in fact, than the
hydrogen itself would provide.

In spite of certain school texts stating that the rain forest provides up
to 40% of the earth's oxygen, plant-generated oxygen is not a significant
source of atmospheric oxygen. Source: Facts not Fear, by Michael Sanera &
Jane Shaw. Regnery Books, 1996.

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