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hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites on the internet give prices and how much a new catalytic converter would cost... but that is not what Im looking for... I would highly appreciate it if any one knew any thing on around what time should you replace a catalytic converter in a car... should you replace it according to the warrenty... or keep the original cat. till it dies? also id b extremely greatful if any one knows any thing about how a catalytic converter actually works... I've read different things of how it works... but nothing ive read has been consistent in the information... so if any of you know how a cat. works then post it and let me know... thanks... clueless teen.... > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic > converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > thanks... clueless teen.... www.google.com  Signature"All my friends can't be wrong!" Remember, stupidity runs in herds. >> hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic >> converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >www.google.com hey dr. maggot... can you be more spacific wen u say google.com... what key words should i use? >>> hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic >>> converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > hey dr. maggot... can you be more spacific wen u say google.com... what key > words should i use? Try "catalytic converter?" Signature"All my friends can't be wrong!" Remember, stupidity runs in herds. >>>> hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic >>>> converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Try "catalytic converter?" i did that already... all that comes up is prices of different models of cars catalytic converters are... >>>>>hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic >>>>>converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > i did that already... all that comes up is prices of different models of cars > catalytic converters are... I'm with you... searching for any kind of useful info on car parts on sites like Google is a nightmare with all the farking parts-stores ads that make up 90% of the hits. I Googled "catalytic converter how it works" and the first hit that came up was http://auto.howstuffworks.com/catalytic-converter.htm. Another useful link that came up: http://autorepair.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/aa080401a_2.htm --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0542-3, 10/19/2005 Tested on: 10/19/2005 11:20:00 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com The key to getting information from the internet is to home in on the key words that identify your subject. You had a good start but then you found you needed to narrow it a bit. Google for the following: "catalytic converter" "how does" Do not omit the quotation marks. > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic > converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > thanks... clueless teen.... >The key to getting information from the internet is to home in on the key >words that identify your subject. You had a good start but then you found [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> thanks... clueless teen.... thanks elle... im sure it will come in handy... ill let u know wat i get on my assignment later on lol > Elle wrote: > >The key to getting information from the internet is to home in on the key [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > thanks elle... im sure it will come in handy... ill let u know wat i get on > my assignment later on lol Hey, kiddo, I forgot you noted that the sites you did look at had inconsistent information. Well that in itself should be of interest to someone who reads your report. Maybe indicate how many sites said the CC works this way; how many said that way. Ultimately, write that you didn't find a consensus on this aspect, but you did on that one. That's what someone reading your report might like to know. Don't let it overwhelm you. You can't get every detail into your report, because you aren't a multi-degreed engineer and/or 20-year experienced technician, anyway. Make it general. Put it in your own words. Cite your sources. Compare and contrast, say, "how a CC works" sites! That might be interesting. >> >The key to getting information from the internet is to home in on the key >[quoted text clipped - 15 lines] [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >sources. Compare and contrast, say, "how a CC works" sites! That might be >interesting. thanks alot for the ideas... just dont call me kiddo lol its kinda degrating.. . but yeah my essay is only supposed to b around 500-700 words long... so your right... i shouldn't try to kill myself by gettin all the details into a little formal essay... so thanks alot for the ideas... lol ill still let u knwo wat i got on my assignment wen i get it back tho... lol to c if ur suggestions were any help lol > Elle wrote: > >> >The key to getting information from the internet is to home in on the key [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > thanks alot for the ideas... just dont call me kiddo lol its kinda degrating.. You'd rather be known as "clueless teen"?? Well, okay... > . but yeah my essay is only supposed to b around 500-700 words long... so > your right... i shouldn't try to kill myself by gettin all the details into a > little formal essay... so thanks alot for the ideas... lol ill still let u > knwo wat i got on my assignment wen i get it back tho... lol to c if ur > suggestions were any help lol Just remember to cite me as "Curmudgeonly Elle" and Tegger as "I-Give-People-Fish Tegger." ;-) Elle Now get off this newsgroup, summarize those web sites, and post your report here before submission. Do NOT forget to provide your sources, luv. One is nothing without integrity. >> >> >The key to getting information from the internet is to home in on the key >[quoted text clipped - 16 lines] [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >here before submission. Do NOT forget to provide your sources, luv. One is >nothing without integrity. wat? i dont get it? wat do u want me to do? > >> >> >The key to getting information from the internet is to home in on the key > >[quoted text clipped - 16 lines] [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > wat? i dont get it? wat do u want me to do? Get to work. Also, do a second google, including the words "warranty" and "federal" . At the end of the report, list all the web sites you used. Those are your sources. You don't want to run down to a dealership and actually //put your hands on// one of these puppies then haul it into class?! For 2% of my grade, I'd do it. Elle You have inspired me to start on my camshaft holder seal replacement job. I am researching placement of the #1 cylinder in TDC compression position now. >> >> >> >The key to getting information from the internet is to home in on the key >> >[quoted text clipped - 16 lines] [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >You have inspired me to start on my camshaft holder seal replacement job. I >am researching placement of the #1 cylinder in TDC compression position now. im gonna get to work now but i was wondering if u knew wat a honeycomb and a ceramic bead do in a catalytic converter? wat is its significants? >> thanks alot for the ideas... just dont call me kiddo lol its kinda > degrating.. > > You'd rather be known as "clueless teen"?? His butchered pseudo-English is a clue as to why adults have a low opinion of teenagers. > Well, okay... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Just remember to cite me as "Curmudgeonly Elle" and Tegger as > "I-Give-People-Fish Tegger." I gave him more fish in another message. but this is the LAST one! SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote E > > Just remember to cite me as "Curmudgeonly Elle" and Tegger as > > "I-Give-People-Fish Tegger." > > I gave him more fish in another message. but this is the LAST one! :-) I did like those keywords for the honeycomb search. Maybe that's the only way to teach people how to refine net searches: Give them enough examples, and they get an idea of how to separate the "key word wheat" from the "empty word chaff." > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on > catalytic converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > thanks... clueless teen.... http://auto.howstuffworks.com/catalytic-converter.htm Have fun. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >> hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on >> catalytic converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Have fun. oh i will have fun... but my teacher already gave us that site as a starting point in our information... thanks for atleast tryin to help... >>> hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on >>> catalytic converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > starting > point in our information... thanks for atleast tryin to help... Then why didn't you just Google for more? Everything's there, at your fingertips. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > "clueless_teen via CarKB.com" <u15032@uwe> wrote > > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > http://auto.howstuffworks.com/catalytic-converter.htm I give him/er a lesson in how to fish, and you just give him the fish!? I bet you're a proponent of the welfare state, too! ;-) Hey, kiddo (the teenager, not you, Tegger), call up a few service shops at dealerships and ask them if they have any old, used (failed) catalytic converters laying around and if you can have one. Cut that puppy open. Identify and label its internals. Props are everything. Elle Procrastinating re the big camshaft holder seal replacement job. Tomorrow morning, baby... >> > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on >[quoted text clipped - 13 lines] [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Procrastinating re the big camshaft holder seal replacement job. Tomorrow >morning, baby... ok then... yeah elle im not gonna go get a catalytic converter just for an essay... its only worth 2% of my final grade... so im not too keen on doing all that just for a crap a.s mark i was gonna get anyways lol >> > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on >[quoted text clipped - 13 lines] [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Procrastinating re the big camshaft holder seal replacement job. Tomorrow >morning, baby. hey Elle... wat does the Honeycomb and the ceramic beads in a cat. do exactly...? > hey Elle... wat does the Honeycomb and the ceramic beads in a cat. do > exactly...? You know why you were given this assignment? In no particular order, to teach you: 1. how to teach yourself. 2. how to assimilate ideas all on the same topic into a few coherent paragraphs. 3. some science, so you can grow up and get a big bucks paying technical job, which will allow you to play more football, field hockey, or chess, go to the opera, or spend more time flirting with the opposite sex (or with whomever you kids--oops, excuse me, I meant "clueless teens"--flirt these days). 4. how to save some serious money when a dealership tries to rip you off and make you pay when in fact your bazillion horsepower red Ford Mustang cat converter is covered by the //federal warranty// on emissions devices. Said serious money will assist you in pursuing the aforementioned leisurely activities. (Use protection!) Cripes while I was writing this, I almost nailed how to get #1 cylinder at TDC compression, via a groups.googl search. I'm that good... >> hey Elle... wat does the Honeycomb and the ceramic beads in a cat. do >> exactly...? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > serious money will assist you in pursuing the aforementioned leisurely > activities. (Use protection!) Exactly! This is an exercise, so when you have to do it "for real" you *will* know what you are doing. Mike "...you should be able to detect when a man is talking rot, and that...is the main, if not the sole, purpose of education." - Harold Macmillan >>> > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on >>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines] [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > hey Elle... wat does the Honeycomb and the ceramic beads in a cat. do > exactly...? You're pretty lazy, aren't you? At the risk of being scolded by Elle, I went to: www.google.com and entered these search terms exactly as you see them here: "catalytic converter" honeycomb function And got this result: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22catalytic+converter%22+honeycomb+functio n&btnG=Google+Search If you wish to know more, you can refine my start by using different terms. You're welcome. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ A good site for that information ob how things work is www.howstuffworks.com Just enter catalytic converter in the search. > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic > converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > thanks... clueless teen.... : hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic : converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : : thanks... clueless teen.... Weird... When my kids were in grade 10, they knew EVERYTHING. Come to think of it, when I was in grade 10, I knew everything. Oh, and I did my own homework, too. Paul You dont know EVERYTHING or you would be on Who wants to be a millionaire, and nither do your kids! i give him credit for asking the question period, You can learn from experience not just TEXT! I havent seen you reply with howe exactly a cat convertor works. HERE since you know EVERYTHING Tell me this! I have a 99 accord coupe manaul, Im lookin at a turbo setup in acouple months. But heres my ? , Im upgrading exhaust to 2.5" piping and basically doing no cat. I was wondering though if i should do the wideband O2 sensor with the air/fuel ratio monitor thing. Since I will be runnin a turbo soon, or Should i just buy the O2 sensor simulator for now? ANSWER THAT SMART a.s! > : hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic > : converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Paul >You dont know EVERYTHING or you would be on Who wants to be a millionaire, >and nither do your kids! i give him credit for asking the question period, hey thanks for sayin that but im a girl lol... and yeah im actually completely clueless when it comes to cars... i just needed a few pointers on where to look for the info and hopefully sum1 who would have enough time on their hands to help me actually comprehend the stuff... but i hate it wen people assume that i know what im doing just cuz im 15... apparently im smart (IQ of 192) but this assignment is totally prooving me wrong... >You can learn from experience not just TEXT! I havent seen you reply with >howe exactly a cat convertor works. HERE since you know EVERYTHING Tell me [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Paul On 10/20/2005 3:17 PM clueless_teen via CarKB.com spake these words of knowledge: >>You dont know EVERYTHING or you would be on Who wants to be a millionaire, >>and nither do your kids! i give him credit for asking the question period, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > people assume that i know what im doing just cuz im 15... apparently im smart > (IQ of 192) but this assignment is totally prooving me wrong... Oops. I bet you didn't really mean to make a claim like that, now did you? Especially given that you don't spell, punctuate or elucidate above the level of the average 12 year old. 92 is a lot more congruent with what you've exhibited in this thread than 192. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen Signature... A library is an arsenal of liberty. >On 10/20/2005 3:17 PM clueless_teen via CarKB.com spake these words of >knowledge: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >RFT!!! >Dave Kelse okay... I'm not 12 years old... I'm 15... I'm just a lazy typer when I don't feel like spending a lot of time on something... I only spell things properly when I'm going to be getting a grade for it at school. so I DO know how to type.... and I DO know how to spell... and I DO have an IQ of 192... you can ask every board official on my city's Board of Education. I've been getting tested for over 5 years to see if I am infact a teen genius. I've comprehended physics and calculus, and since then I've been tutoring many grade 12 students who attend my Highschool in both those subjects... so don't tell me that it was a mistake to make a claim that... because I did! >>On 10/20/2005 3:17 PM clueless_teen via CarKB.com spake these words of >>knowledge: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > okay... I'm not 12 years old... I'm 15... I'm 14. I just look a lot older than my age. I don't even get carded when buying liquor, which is just sooo cool. I can buy cigarettes for all my friends, too. > I'm just a lazy typer when I > don't feel like spending a lot of time on something... I only spell > things properly when I'm going to be getting a grade for it at school. > so I DO know how to type.... and I DO know how to spell... and I DO > have an IQ of 192... So do I! What a coincidence! > you can ask every board official on my city's > Board of Education. I've been getting tested for over 5 years to see > if I am infact a teen genius. We already know I am. Nothing to prove there. > I've comprehended physics and calculus, > and since then I've been tutoring many grade 12 students who attend my > Highschool in both those subjects... so don't tell me that it was a > mistake to make a claim that... because I did! I just made the smae mistake, which proves our similar IQs. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > On 10/20/2005 3:17 PM clueless_teen via CarKB.com spake these words of > knowledge: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > above the level of the average 12 year old. 92 is a lot more > congruent with what you've exhibited in this thread than 192. Oh, c'mon Dave. On the Internet, we've ALL got IQs of 192. You, me, our semi-literate friend here, everybody. Isn't it cool to be so smart? SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ On 10/21/2005 6:33 AM TeGGeR® spake these words of knowledge: >> On 10/20/2005 3:17 PM clueless_teen via CarKB.com spake these words of >> knowledge: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Oh, c'mon Dave. On the Internet, we've ALL got IQs of 192. You, me, our > semi-literate friend here, everybody. Isn't it cool to be so smart? No. Not me. 19*3*! RFT!!! Dave Kelsen Signature... Sometimes I really wish I knew what an ignoramus is. >: hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic >: converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Paul ok u know what dont make fun of me because im askin for help... at least i have the guts to ask for help... i grew up knowing EVERYTHING that came my way... there was nothing i didn't know or didn't comprehend in a second... the fact that im finding a challenge in catalytic converters just prooves that no one is perfect! unfortunately even me... so if ur gonna post sumtin up... dont waste my time.... post sumtin usefull... not all this damn tlak about ur kids... http://auto.howstuffworks.com/catalytic-converter.htm > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic > converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > thanks... clueless teen.... hi. im a not so clueless_troll i am innocent stupid teenager and my internet info class is doin a study on naive internet users and how to troll good, my teacher said try passive trolling using the pathetic whatever, teenager approach , im stupid, im dumb, im cluless and be vague and see how many people waste lots of energy really trying to help U the only real teenie thing about this is trying to get somebody else to do there assignment for them clues, 1. **no** teenie refers to self as clueless 2. teenie venacular is off by 15 years 3. post is too long (think IM) 4. i read howitworks.com if one ***actually reads*** first paragraph and still whines about not knowing what convertor does whine whine and blather on about not saying what it does or being vague and in consistent deserves a failing grade on the report spend some time in science / math / physics groups you'll know > hello. im in grade 10 and my science class is doing a study on catalytic > converters... I have nothing on the subject so far because most websites on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > thanks... clueless teen.... > hi. im a not so clueless_troll > i am innocent stupid teenager and my internet info class is doin a study on [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> >> thanks... clueless teen.... Come on fellers give the 192 IQ a go. All mechanics have an IQ of er I'd better not say Thats why we hang out here eh? Were all less experienced than we want to be. Whats IQ anyway, its another way of telling someone you can be smart if you want to be .Most of us cant be smart because basicly were lazy. Ive got an IQ of er,, dam Ive fergot Its terrible when Alzheimers sets in...IQ dont mean nuthin den. A catalytic converter works by getting so hot it burns any pollution left after the combustion process. Its usualy get polluted by using the wrong fuel, eg leaded petrol. This is when it stops working properly. It burns itself out in time, but if treated properly will last longer than most exhaust systems due to pollution standards making the manufacture of these devices very long life unit. If you googled you would have found this http://auto.howstuffworks.com/catalytic-converter.htm |
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