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Car Forum / Honda Cars / November 2005

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Clutch in or out at stop lights?

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Llatikcuf - 02 Nov 2005 02:10 GMT
Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:

Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
into neutral and let the clutch out?

Does it make a difference? Anybody?

-Nate
Seth - 02 Nov 2005 02:15 GMT
> Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>
> Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
> into neutral and let the clutch out?
>
> Does it make a difference? Anybody?

As a motorcyclist I usually leave it in gear with the clutch depressed so I
am ready to move.  Not cause I'm in a hurry, but more of a safety issue in
case there is something I need to react to.
TWW - 03 Nov 2005 01:29 GMT
> > Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
> >
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> am ready to move.  Not cause I'm in a hurry, but more of a safety issue in
> case there is something I need to react to.

No longer ride, but in my day of Nortons and Triumphs we always put 'er in
neutral and let the clutch out.  Breaking clutch cables come to mind.
Anyway,  if you were'nt careful and grabbed a bunch of throttle on take off,
she would spit back through Amals and die on you at the light -- leaving you
desperately kicking her over with the kick starter.  When I bought a Honda
750-4 in 1970 or so, I felt spoiled.
Jim Yanik - 03 Nov 2005 05:51 GMT
>> > Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>> >
>> > Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or
>> > shift into neutral and let the clutch out?

IF you're going to be stopped for a little while;
You should put the trans in neutral and let out the clutch;it saves the
*throwout bearing* between the rotating clutch pressure plate and the
stationary clutch fork.

If it's just a quick stop,just hold the clutch in until you can go again.

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TWW - 05 Nov 2005 14:52 GMT
> >> > Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
> >> >
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>
> If it's just a quick stop,just hold the clutch in until you can go again.

Have done that with every manual I have owned since my first car -- a 57 VW
convertible.
Elle - 02 Nov 2005 02:27 GMT
> Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>
> Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
> into neutral and let the clutch out?
>
> Does it make a difference? Anybody?

My recollection is that you'll get more life out of the clutch if, during a
stop, you shift to neutral and let the clutch out.

You can google on this one and come up with some commercial, but free auto
advice commentary on the subject of optimal clutch operation. (That is,
operation to maximize your clutch's life.)
Elliot Richmond - 02 Nov 2005 03:49 GMT
>Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>
>Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
>into neutral and let the clutch out?
>
>Does it make a difference? Anybody?

When the clutch pedal is depressed, there is a load on the throw-out
bearing.  So theoretically, putting the car in neutral and releasing
the clutch saves some wear and tear on the throw-out bearing, which is
the most common component to fail.

However, I think the difference is insignificant.

Elliot Richmond
Freelance Science Writer and Editor
TeGGeR® - 02 Nov 2005 05:33 GMT
> Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>
> Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
> into neutral and let the clutch out?
>
> Does it make a difference? Anybody?

It absolutely makes a difference. The wear on your release bearing is
immensely accelerated if you hold the clutch pedal down at lights.

If you're going to be sitting there for a minute or so, put the lever in
neutral and release the clutch. Be kind to your release bearing. It's cheap
itself, but is awfully expensive to get at.

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Llatikcuf - 02 Nov 2005 05:50 GMT
Thanks for all of the replies! Looks like I will shift to neutral from
now on.

-Nate
 
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