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Brakes specs on MD Inspection Report-99 Honda Accord

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Per - 07 Nov 2005 13:55 GMT
Do these specs indicate that my brakes will need to be replaced soon?
How many more miles do you think i'll get with these specs? Any Help is
appreciated. Thanks.

Drums/Discs: Left Front .854 inches line .827 inches/Rear right 8.661
inches line 8.700 inches.
Pads/Linings: Left Front 8/32 Right Rear 4/32.
N8N - 07 Nov 2005 14:00 GMT
> Do these specs indicate that my brakes will need to be replaced soon?
> How many more miles do you think i'll get with these specs? Any Help is
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> inches line 8.700 inches.
> Pads/Linings: Left Front 8/32 Right Rear 4/32.

I assume that "line" actually is "limit" sounds like your rear rotors
are too worn to pass, I would get new pads and rotors for the rear.
Fronts look OK.  Actually your rear pads are probably OK but it would
be silly to not get new pads at the same time you get rotors.

good luck,

nate
Per - 07 Nov 2005 19:10 GMT
Thanks Nate, yes I meant "limit" not"line". The thing is, my car did
pass inspection with these specs. I wonder if I have any recourse with
the inspection station, which is actually a Honda dealership.
Kevin G - 10 Nov 2005 01:38 GMT
> > Do these specs indicate that my brakes will need to be replaced soon?
> > How many more miles do you think i'll get with these specs? Any Help is
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> I assume that "line" actually is "limit" sounds like your rear rotors
> are too worn to pass, I would get new pads and rotors for the rear.

The drum reading looks like an inside measurement; the more the wear the
higher the reading.  The drum still has metal left to wear.

Kevin
N8N - 10 Nov 2005 15:17 GMT
> > > Do these specs indicate that my brakes will need to be replaced soon?
> > > How many more miles do you think i'll get with these specs? Any Help is
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>
> Kevin

Duh.  you're right, I wasn't looking at the numbers.  I just ASSumed
that a vehicle that new would have 4-wheel discs and was looking for a
number larger than the limit.

In that case everything is legal and the only "marginal" part would be
the rears but they still probably have a lot of life left in them
unless you drive hard.

nate
Julie P. - 07 Nov 2005 15:05 GMT
> Do these specs indicate that my brakes will need to be replaced soon?
> How many more miles do you think i'll get with these specs? Any Help is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> inches line 8.700 inches.
> Pads/Linings: Left Front 8/32 Right Rear 4/32.

How did they ever get those specs begin with? Most states don't allow
mechanics to pull wheels to inspect brakes during an inspection unless they
have evidence they are worn. I would never let them touch my wheels. If
anything, I would pull the wheels for them.
spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com - 07 Nov 2005 15:13 GMT
MD inspections require checking front and rear brakes, I think. Its
been awhile...
MD is one of those only-one-inspection required states, so they are a
royal pain. Same with CT.

NY requires checking linings on 1 front and 1 rear wheel. No minimum
depth required, just can't be scraping. If linings are not visible, the
wheel gets pulled.

In CT any *suspected* rust (a small bubble) would be attacked with an
icepick.
Bastards.

-D
N8N - 07 Nov 2005 15:16 GMT
spamTHIS...@yahoo.com wrote:
> MD inspections require checking front and rear brakes, I think. Its
> been awhile...
> MD is one of those only-one-inspection required states, so they are a
> royal pain. Same with CT.

Indeed.  They are *required* to pull at least one wheel, front and
rear, and to mic the rotors or drums, as appropriate.  And yes, it is a
royal PITA.  It is a rare car that can get through MD inspection on the
first shot, if it's more than a couple years old.  Of course, since
it's a one shot deal, people can drive all sorts of crap, so long as it
passed inspection when they bought it...

nate
Shep - 07 Nov 2005 18:36 GMT
Just a correction on NYS, a front wheel must be pulled no matter what, rear
shoes fail under 1/32 if riveted 1/16 if bonded. If front are on the wear
indicators they fail, deeply scored or rusted rotors can also fail.
> MD inspections require checking front and rear brakes, I think. Its
> been awhile...
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>
> -D
Julie P. - 07 Nov 2005 18:46 GMT
> Just a correction on NYS, a front wheel must be pulled no matter what,
> rear shoes fail under 1/32 if riveted 1/16 if bonded. If front are on the
> wear indicators they fail, deeply scored or rusted rotors can also fail.

In Maine, they are not allowed to pull your wheels unless they notice/hear
something. They are simply allowed to look at the front wheel brakes with
the wheel on. They cannot touch the rear wheel (for drum brakes) at all
unless they notice something. The idea is to get cars in and out fast and
not go on a fishing expedition. Of course, inspection only cost $10 there
when I was there in the late 90's. May have gone up a little since.

Julie
Steve W. - 07 Nov 2005 22:32 GMT
> > Just a correction on NYS, a front wheel must be pulled no matter what,
> > rear shoes fail under 1/32 if riveted 1/16 if bonded. If front are on the
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>
> Julie

Strange that the Maine DMVs web sight shows that brakes are a required
part of inspection. No restrictions in there that I saw in terms of how
they are inspected.

http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/29-A/title29-Ach0sec0.html

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Julie P. - 07 Nov 2005 22:41 GMT
>> > Just a correction on NYS, a front wheel must be pulled no matter
> what,
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>
> http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/29-A/title29-Ach0sec0.html

I took an official State of Maine Vehicle Motor Inspection course in 1999 at
a vocational school. Mechanics are not allowed to pull the wheels, unless
they hear or see something that would lead them to think there is a problem.

Julie
Julie P. - 07 Nov 2005 22:49 GMT
>> > Just a correction on NYS, a front wheel must be pulled no matter
> what,
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>
> http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/29-A/title29-Ach0sec0.html

Steve, the above is just the Maine motor vehicle statutes. The official
mechanics inspection manual issued by the State Police is about 100 pages
long and goes into much further detail about inspection mechanics should and
should not do. I'll see if I can dig up my copy later tonight.

Julie
 
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