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Car Forum / Honda Cars / November 2005

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91' Accord - Won't start

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Norbert - 07 Nov 2005 14:00 GMT
91' Accord won't start, was driving fine then all of a sudden the engine
just died. Check for spark and it was strong, I wasn't hearing the usual
fuel pump buzz you hear when you turn the ignition so my guess is a dead
fuel pump. My question it "what's the easiest way to check for fuel
pressure?". If it's not that, does anyone have a suggestion as to what to
check for next?

Thanx in advance,

Norbert
'Curly Q. Links' - 07 Nov 2005 16:03 GMT
> 91' Accord won't start, was driving fine then all of a sudden the engine
> just died. Check for spark and it was strong, I wasn't hearing the usual
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>
> Norbert

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You said you were driving it when it died? Have you replaced the
ignition switch yet. Honda recalled about a billion of them . . . . Do a
google search for honda ignition switch recall. It could also be the
Main relay, but that never gives trouble while the car is moving.

If it failed to start in the morning, there's a couple of other things
it could be, but that's not what you asked about. Since there's spark,
your Timing belt is intact, although it may have jumped a few teeth.
Knowing your mileage and service history would be a great help . .

'Curly'
Norbert - 07 Nov 2005 18:39 GMT
Hey Curly,

Yeah I've read about the Main Relay just underneath the left side of the
dash, I"ll check that first since it's the easiest thing to do. I did
however neglect to tell you that about an hour or so before the car died on
me I had to replace the cap & rotor. It was arcing by the ignition cap and
wouldn't start, I replaced that and it fired right up no problem. Then when
I was driving it for about 45min. that's when it suddenly died. I re-checked
the cap & rotor again to make sure it was on properly and it was on
correctly.

I really hope it's not the fuel pump since I hear the tank needs to be
removed to get to it, why can't car makers simply put it on the outside of
the tank where it's accessible, go figure. This car was given to me as a
winter beater and I really don't want to spend too much on it, it has about
300,000+ km. on it and had been fairly reliable since I got it a year ago.

Any other suggestions?

Thanx again,

Norbert

> > 91' Accord won't start, was driving fine then all of a sudden the engine
just died. Check for spark and it was strong, I wasn't hearing the usual
fuel pump buzz you hear when you turn the ignition so my guess is a dead
fuel pump. My question it "what's the easiest way to check for fuel
pressure?". If it's not that, does anyone have a suggestion as to what to
> > check for next?
> >
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>
> You said you were driving it when it died? Have you replaced the ignition
switch yet. Honda recalled about a billion of them . . . . Do a google
search for honda ignition switch recall. It could also be the Main relay,
but that never gives trouble while the car is moving.  If it failed to start
in the morning, there's a couple of other things it could be, but that's not
what you asked about. Since there's spark, your Timing belt is intact,
although it may have jumped a few teeth. Knowing your mileage and service
history would be a great help . .

> 'Curly'
Jim Yanik - 08 Nov 2005 01:30 GMT
> Hey Curly,
>
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>
> Norbert



Some Hondas,you have to remove the back seat to access the fuel pump,and
don't have to drop the tank.

Also,resoldering the main relay eliminates it as a problem,costs little
except some time.
Just "inspecting" it will not do any good.amd as long as you have it
out;resolder it.

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Burt S. - 08 Nov 2005 16:09 GMT
>why can't car makers simply put it on the outside of the tank

They did. It's a nightmare to prime these pumps when you run the tank dry.
TeGGeR® - 08 Nov 2005 02:02 GMT
> 91' Accord won't start, was driving fine then all of a sudden the engine
> just died. Check for spark and it was strong, I wasn't hearing the usual
> fuel pump buzz you hear when you turn the ignition so my guess is a dead
> fuel pump. My question it "what's the easiest way to check for fuel
> pressure?".

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#checkfuel

> If it's not that, does anyone have a suggestion as to what to
> check for next?

It might not be the Main Relay, but it's certainly worth checking it
PROPERLY.
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#mainrelay

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