I'm considering purchasing a Civic Hybrid for a family member. Does
anybody have any real-word reports on economy? Drivability?
Any thoughts on Civic vs. Prius?
Thanks!
Bill
Art - 17 Feb 2006 02:09 GMT
We test drove both the Civic and Prius. Both were too small for us and we
ended up with an Accord hybrid. Consumer Reports just rated the Civic.
Check it out at your local library. They loved it though the Prius has
better gas mileage.
> I'm considering purchasing a Civic Hybrid for a family member. Does
> anybody have any real-word reports on economy? Drivability?
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RICHARD KUROSKI - 17 Feb 2006 18:43 GMT
I have driven both the Civic hybrid and the Prius. They differ in how
they approach the concept of "hybrid". The civic is a partial hybrid. It
runs on a smaller engine and kicks in the electric motor when conditions
require, i.e. going up the hill. The Prius is a total hybrid in that it
runs on the battery and uses the gas engine to charge the battery and/or
compliment the electric motor. Both cars charge a hefty price for the
hybrid system. Bottom line I bought the conventional 2006 Civic for $17,500
as opposed to the Civic hybrid for some $22,000. There is tax credit you
can take on the Civic for around $2,000. So you can see even then the cost
delta significant. This is of course is just MHO.
> I'm considering purchasing a Civic Hybrid for a family member. Does
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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 17 Feb 2006 21:39 GMT
> I have driven both the Civic hybrid and the Prius. They differ in how
> they approach the concept of "hybrid". The civic is a partial hybrid. It
> runs on a smaller engine and kicks in the electric motor when conditions
> require, i.e. going up the hill. The Prius is a total hybrid in that it
> runs on the battery and uses the gas engine to charge the battery and/or
> compliment the electric motor.
no, there's no such thing as a "partial" or "total" hybrid.
There are parallel and series hybrids, though. Honda's is a serial
hybrid, while Toyota's is a parallel hybrid.
But they are both hybrids. One isn't better than the other; they're
just different. One isn't more completely a hybrid than the other,
either.
Theodore Kaplan - 18 Feb 2006 15:22 GMT
Concerning the "driveability" of the civic hybrid, I have an 05 civic, and
find it wonderful in its handling, acceleration and so on. As far as mpg,
the average is about 39-41, as I haven't gone on any really long trips.
This is at the 3500 mile point on the odometer.
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TomP - 18 Feb 2006 15:53 GMT
I get about 33 around town with CVT transmission.
I'm particularly happy with driveability around town in stop and go
traffic. The car is just too herky-jerky for my liking.
Honda went to a lot of trouble to make the CVT trans "seem" more like a
standard automatic transmission by using elaborate clutch controls.
But they fall short of the simulation, thus the herky-jerky nature when
starting from a stop.
If you're not going to drive this car; make sure the person who is
drives it before you buy.
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> anybody have any real-word reports on economy? Drivability?
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Gordon McGrew - 18 Feb 2006 20:09 GMT
>I get about 33 around town with CVT transmission.
>I'm particularly happy with driveability around town in stop and go
I assume you meant to say, "unhappy."
>traffic. The car is just too herky-jerky for my liking.
>Honda went to a lot of trouble to make the CVT trans "seem" more like a
>standard automatic transmission by using elaborate clutch controls.
>But they fall short of the simulation, thus the herky-jerky nature when
>starting from a stop.
That is unfortunate and surprising. One would think that a hybrid
linked to a CVT would be the ultimate in smoothness. Sounds like the
programming needs to be rethunk.
Art - 18 Feb 2006 22:00 GMT
I think his problem is that the engine turns off when you stop in traffic.
There is complete silence. When you take your foot off the brake it starts
the engine and you feel that. My wife's Accord Hybrid does the same. The
silence is enjoyable. The startup is annoying. It kinds of evens out. But
the Prius system probably makes more sense.
>>I get about 33 around town with CVT transmission.
>>I'm particularly happy with driveability around town in stop and go
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> linked to a CVT would be the ultimate in smoothness. Sounds like the
> programming needs to be rethunk.
Bob Palmer - 19 Feb 2006 01:14 GMT
>>I get about 33 around town with CVT transmission.
>>I'm particularly happy with driveability around town in stop and go
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> linked to a CVT would be the ultimate in smoothness. Sounds like the
> programming needs to be rethunk.
I own a 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid with the CVT and it is the smoothest car
I've ever driven. Seamless.
TomP - 25 Feb 2006 16:19 GMT
Yes, I meant unhappy.
> >I get about 33 around town with CVT transmission.
> >I'm particularly happy with driveability around town in stop and go
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> linked to a CVT would be the ultimate in smoothness. Sounds like the
> programming needs to be rethunk.
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Flyifyoucan - 21 Feb 2006 13:55 GMT
Please see my post on 02/21/06 related to the 2006 Civic Hybrid fuel
economy.
Dave
> I'm considering purchasing a Civic Hybrid for a family member. Does
> anybody have any real-word reports on economy? Drivability?
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