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Car Forum / Honda Cars / March 2006

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Location of Wiper Relay

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Ianegon007 - 05 Mar 2006 20:20 GMT
93 accord Lx 4Dr auto

Does anybody know the location of the wiper relay? I cant seem to find
it anywhere.

Thanks!
High Tech Misfit - 05 Mar 2006 22:05 GMT
> 93 accord Lx 4Dr auto
>
> Does anybody know the location of the wiper relay? I cant seem to find
> it anywhere.
>
> Thanks!

According to my Chilton book, there should be a large multi-function unit
above the left kick panel.  This unit controls the operation of the wipers,
seat belt buzzer, key chime, and other features that depend on time
measurements.  There is also a separate intermittent relay in the right rear
corner of the engine compartment (under the relay box).
Michael Pardee - 05 Mar 2006 23:02 GMT
> 93 accord Lx 4Dr auto
>
> Does anybody know the location of the wiper relay? I cant seem to find
> it anywhere.
>
> Thanks!

Helm manual places it under the hood, attached to the fuse/relay box at the
firewall on the passenger side. If I read the picture right it is at the
front outside corner *under* the box, not inside the box itself. No wonder
you couldn't find it anywhere. Wiring colors grn/blk, blu/wht, blk, grn/red
and blu/wht.

Mike
TeGGeR® - 06 Mar 2006 03:03 GMT
> 93 accord Lx 4Dr auto
>
> Does anybody know the location of the wiper relay? I cant seem to find
> it anywhere.
>
> Thanks!

What's wrong with your wipers?

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Ianegon007 - 06 Mar 2006 03:49 GMT
Thanks for all your replies. I'll look for it in the morning.

As for what is wrong...  I posted something a week ago about how the
wipers don't want to turn off no matter what position they are in.
The only thing I could do is remove the wiper fuse, but that also kill
the fans for my radiator and A/C. (no idea what these two have in
common, but I know they are wired somehow)

Somebody suggested removing the stalk plug for the wiper switch and I
did that, but it still kills the fans. I really have no clue what the
heck is going on, so I want to see if maybe the wiper relay was bad,
but I couldn't find it.

Thanks for all your help everybody.
Ianegon007 - 07 Mar 2006 00:23 GMT
Found it! And the problem was there. A burnt wire that was causing a
short. After some splicing my wipers work like normal.

Thanks for all the help everybody!
Jim Yanik - 07 Mar 2006 01:33 GMT
> Found it! And the problem was there. A burnt wire that was causing a
> short. After some splicing my wipers work like normal.
>
> Thanks for all the help everybody!

My question is "why did the wire burn to begin with??"

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Ianegon007 - 07 Mar 2006 02:04 GMT
I have no idea. But if it happens again, I'll know where to look.
Brian Smith - 07 Mar 2006 10:38 GMT
>I have no idea. But if it happens again, I'll know where to look.

If it doesn't cause the rest of the car to burn, first.
Jim Yanik - 07 Mar 2006 12:25 GMT
> I have no idea. But if it happens again, I'll know where to look.

The next time it happens,you may have an electrical FIRE.

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Michael Pardee - 07 Mar 2006 13:01 GMT
>> Found it! And the problem was there. A burnt wire that was causing a
>> short. After some splicing my wipers work like normal.
>>
>> Thanks for all the help everybody!
>
> My question is "why did the wire burn to begin with??"

A lot depends on whether the wire was burned at the end or evenly along its
length. If only at the end, the relay socket is bad and will heat it up
again. Replacing the socket is the only fix short of soldering the relay to
the wire. It isn't likely to start a fire, but it will be an ongoing
headache until fixed.

If the wire is burned along the length, you need to check the fuse rating.
Fuse ratings are normally selected to protect the wiring.

Mike
Ianegon007 - 08 Mar 2006 03:20 GMT
The wire was burnt closer to the socket.  (Inch or so) It looked like
at one point somebody had spliced into it. There was electrical tape
hanging on the wire and exposing a section. I cut the wire, added an
extension and soldered it back together and all is well. It should hold
just fine, and electrical fire would really have sucked.
Michael Pardee - 08 Mar 2006 12:46 GMT
> The wire was burnt closer to the socket.  (Inch or so) It looked like
> at one point somebody had spliced into it. There was electrical tape
> hanging on the wire and exposing a section. I cut the wire, added an
> extension and soldered it back together and all is well. It should hold
> just fine, and electrical fire would really have sucked.

If the failure is right at the socket what you'll probably find is that the
contact in the relay socket is darkened: oxidized. It's the usual failure
mode for high current spring contacts. Dunno which comes first, but it is a
process where the contact starts heating up, oxidizing, heating more...
until the temperature gets high enough to detemper the metal and the tension
drops. From there the failure goes fast, generating lots of heat and burning
the contacts, often melting the socket. Not normally a fire hazard, though -
the heat is too localized.

However, if it is actually at the scabrous splice you've probably fixed it.
You'll know for sure within a week or two either way :-)

Mike
Ianegon007 - 08 Mar 2006 23:09 GMT
I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks again for everybody's help!
 
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