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Car Forum / Honda Cars / March 2006

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2005 Accord:  Holding on a hill...

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Guest - 06 Mar 2006 22:15 GMT
It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?  When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would think that an Accord would do the same
Seth - 07 Mar 2006 03:42 GMT
> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
> think that an Accord would do the same.

Maybe a silly question, but what's wrong with just keeping your foot on the
brake as is proper?
Guest - 07 Mar 2006 05:32 GMT
>> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
>> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
>> think that an Accord would do the same.
>
> Maybe a silly question, but what's wrong with just keeping your foot on
> the brake as is proper?

Well that is not the problem, it is when it is time for take off that the
'kickback' happens.  The Civic just took off and went forward, not rolling
back first.
Jim Yanik - 07 Mar 2006 12:26 GMT
>> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
>> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
>> think that an Accord would do the same.
>
> Maybe a silly question, but what's wrong with just keeping your foot
> on the brake as is proper?

Thats what a HANDbrake is for;for hill-holding.

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Guest - 07 Mar 2006 15:35 GMT
>>> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
>>> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
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>
> Thats what a HANDbrake is for;for hill-holding.

Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....
bearman - 07 Mar 2006 16:05 GMT
>>>> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
>>>> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....

If you're stopped at a light, don't you keep your foot on the brake pedal to
keep the car from moving forward?  Why can't you do the same thing when
you're stopped on a hill?  If you're worried about rollback, use your left
foot on the brake pedal (only when stopped, please).
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Guest - 07 Mar 2006 18:26 GMT
>>>>> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
>>>>> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
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> you're stopped on a hill?  If you're worried about rollback, use your left
> foot on the brake pedal (only when stopped, please).

Instead of trying to give me smart answers, understand that the Civic had no
rollback.  I liked that about that car and I assumed that the Accord would
have that feature.  That is the point of my question.  I like the ability to
take off from a steep hill without the rollback.
bearman - 07 Mar 2006 18:47 GMT
>>>>>> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
>>>>>> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
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> would have that feature.  That is the point of my question.  I like the
> ability to take off from a steep hill without the rollback.

I didn't think I was giving a "smart" answer.  If you can't adapt to a
different car, maybe you should have kept the Civic.  Or at least learned
how to keep from rolling back.  It's a good thing you have an automatic
tranny; a manual would be hell on the people behind you.
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Brian Smith - 07 Mar 2006 19:38 GMT
> Instead of trying to give me smart answers, understand that the Civic had
> no rollback.  I liked that about that car and I assumed that the Accord
> would have that feature.  That is the point of my question.  I like the
> ability to take off from a steep hill without the rollback.

Perhaps the true problem you are experiencing, is your lack of driving
ability or skill.
Guest - 08 Mar 2006 01:49 GMT
>> Instead of trying to give me smart answers, understand that the Civic had
>> no rollback.  I liked that about that car and I assumed that the Accord
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> Perhaps the true problem you are experiencing, is your lack of driving
> ability or skill.

No, the problem I am having are people giving smart a.s answers.
Brian Smith - 08 Mar 2006 13:37 GMT
> No, the problem I am having are people giving smart a.s answers.

LOL! That's the sign of immaturity, when one can not (or will not) accept
responsibility for one's own actions.
Jim Yanik - 07 Mar 2006 23:31 GMT
>>>>>> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do
>>>>>> it? When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I
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> Accord would have that feature.  That is the point of my question.  I
> like the ability to take off from a steep hill without the rollback.

HANDBRAKE!

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jim beam - 08 Mar 2006 02:18 GMT
>>>>>>It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
>>>>>>When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> have that feature.  That is the point of my question.  I like the ability to
> take off from a steep hill without the rollback.

the /old/ civic had no rollback, but all the /new/ civics, accords, etc.
do because it improves [reduces] gas consumption.  it's a design
feature.  that's one of the reasons why honda get ulev or sulev epa
designations.
Guest - 08 Mar 2006 17:22 GMT
>>>>>>>It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
>>>>>>>When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
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> do because it improves [reduces] gas consumption.  it's a design feature.
> that's one of the reasons why honda get ulev or sulev epa designations.

Thanks for your sensible answer.
Brian Smith - 07 Mar 2006 18:23 GMT
> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....

It's perfectly acceptable to use the handbrake or service brakes for holding
a vehicle stationary on a hill, whether or not there is other traffic.
Guest - 08 Mar 2006 01:51 GMT
>> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....
>
> It's perfectly acceptable to use the handbrake or service brakes for
> holding a vehicle stationary on a hill, whether or not there is other
> traffic.

The vehicle is driving, not stationary.
Howard Lester - 08 Mar 2006 02:30 GMT
>> It's perfectly acceptable to use the handbrake or service brakes for
>> holding a vehicle stationary on a hill, whether or not there is other
>> traffic.
>
> The vehicle is driving, not stationary.

No, when you're stopped on a hill the vehicle is stationary. Your upset is
that your new car doesn't behave the way the old one did. No one here has
given you true smartass answers (and believe me, they are *very* capable!);
they're really telling you what "is." With your new car, you have to deal
with that.
Jim Yanik - 08 Mar 2006 12:48 GMT
>>> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....
>>
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>
> The vehicle is driving, not stationary.

you distinctly said "holding" on a hill,which IS "stationary".
Or were you saying that your tranny slips while -going up- a hill?

If you want to "hold" while stopped for traffic,a red light,whatever,the
HANDBRAKE is the customary method of "hillholding",that is the reason it's
a HANDbrake and not just a parking brake.

It's not a "smart-a.s answer",either,it's a FACT.

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Brian Smith - 08 Mar 2006 14:17 GMT
> The vehicle is driving, not stationary.

Then why the concern because its moving?
karinhall - 09 Mar 2006 00:01 GMT
>> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....
>
> It's perfectly acceptable to use the handbrake or service brakes for holding
> a vehicle stationary on a hill, whether or not there is other traffic.

Ah, what the hell, just use your Hill Holder..........,uh, they used to have them on Studebakers!  And, IIRC, Subarus too.
JXStern - 09 Mar 2006 19:49 GMT
>>> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....
>>
>> It's perfectly acceptable to use the handbrake or service brakes for holding
>> a vehicle stationary on a hill, whether or not there is other traffic.
>>
>Ah, what the hell, just use your Hill Holder..........,uh, they used to have them on Studebakers!  And, IIRC, Subarus too.

Land anchors?
Grumpy AuContraire - 10 Mar 2006 02:47 GMT
> >>> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....
> >>
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>
> Land anchors?

Suburus had an inferior copy.  The hill holder on my '56 Studebaker
Power Hawk it the original unit and has never required adjustment and
it's the single best friend you can have on steep hill intersections...

JT
Jim Yanik - 07 Mar 2006 23:31 GMT
>>>> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
>>>> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Maybe I should have written holding on a hill during traffic....

A handbrake works great for that,too.
Left hand on the wheel,right hand on the handbrake.

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'Curly Q. Links' - 07 Mar 2006 04:55 GMT
> Guest wrote:
>
> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?
> When I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would think
> that an Accord would do the same.

--------------------------------

The owner's manual is the first place I'd look. All Honda manuals I've
ever read said "Don't expect the Honda tranny to hold the car on an
incline", or words to that effect.

Solved..
Guest - 07 Mar 2006 05:33 GMT
>> Guest wrote:
>>
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>
> Solved..

Thanks.  I will look.  That is odd that it does not hold without the break.
I expected more out of it.
James - 09 Mar 2006 23:27 GMT
yeah having the trans hold the car on a hill  is extremely hard on it, is it
not?

>>> Guest wrote:
>>>
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> Thanks.  I will look.  That is odd that it does not hold without the
> break. I expected more out of it.
jim beam - 07 Mar 2006 05:03 GMT
> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?  When
> I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would think that an
> Accord would do the same.

old hondas did, new hondas don't.  it's all about fuel economy.  use
your right foot to solve the situation.  appropriate pressure on either
pedal will work.
JXStern - 08 Mar 2006 02:25 GMT
>old hondas did, new hondas don't.  it's all about fuel economy.  use
>your right foot to solve the situation.  appropriate pressure on either
>pedal will work.

Or both.

Interesting problem.  Maybe need an inclinometer and new computer
settings!

Haven't experienced the problem myself in my current Accord, but I've
handled it with sticks before, so I figure it must work somehow even
with autos.

J.
Guest - 08 Mar 2006 17:25 GMT
>>old hondas did, new hondas don't.  it's all about fuel economy.  use
>>your right foot to solve the situation.  appropriate pressure on either
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> J.

It's not a problem on most hills, but when they get rather steep, that's
when I feel it.  I guess the next time I buy a car, I need to take it on MY
test drive route and not theirs.
John Horner - 12 Mar 2006 02:47 GMT
> It is an auto, but I cannot hold on a steep hill.  How do I do it?  When
> I had the Civic, I put it on 2 and that car held, I would think that an
> Accord would do the same.

Use the brakes.

John
 
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