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Car Forum / Honda Cars / March 2006One Car for 4 Licensed Drivers
In my family, we have one car for 4 licensed drivers. We brought up our children cycling, and now that they're older (one is a Junior in High School and the other is a Freshman in college), they have continued the good habit. I commute by bicycle to work year round, regardless of weather, unless the roads are treacherous. My commute is 8 miles. Nowadays, if I lived in a large city with mass transit, I would combine mass transit with a nice folding bicycle. Jim Gagnepain http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ > In my family, we have one car for 4 licensed drivers. We brought up our > children cycling, and now that they're older (one is a Junior in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Jim Gagnepain > http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ ------------------------------------ I can tell it's Psychic Wednesday. Are we supposed to guess why four licensed drivers can't get the Honda to start? :-) One clue (oilfreeandhappy) tells me you should check the oil level first. :-( Stay safe, Jim. 'Curly' Actually, the last car that I personally owned, about 20 years ago, was a Honda Civic. Good little car, but I prefer my bicycle now. It's a win-win - good exercise, oil-free, fresh air... fresh air?? Yeah right, you get to suck in all the wonderfully "fresh" fumes that our cars put out...enjoy! > Actually, the last car that I personally owned, about 20 years ago, was > a Honda Civic. Good little car, but I prefer my bicycle now. It's a > win-win - good exercise, oil-free, fresh air... For a short part of my commute, this is the case. But much of my ride is on rural roads, with not much traffic. BTW, studies have shown that cars get more exposure to road fumes than bicycles, because the bicycles aren't in the center of the road. Jim Gagnepain http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ >fresh air?? Yeah right, you get to suck in all the wonderfully "fresh" fumes that our cars put out...enjoy! > For a short part of my commute, this is the case. But much of my ride > is on rural roads, with not much traffic. BTW, studies have shown that > cars get more exposure to road fumes than bicycles, because the > bicycles aren't in the center of the road. The tailpipes are off to the side as well. > In my family, we have one car for 4 licensed drivers. We brought up our > children cycling, and now that they're older (one is a Junior in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Jim Gagnepain > http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ +--------------------------------------+ \ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 / \ 1 9 / / \ 0 / 10 / \ SMUG-O-METER / / \ / / \ / / \___ _________________/____/ \ / \....................../  SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > In my family, we have one car for 4 licensed drivers. It's time to buy more vehicles, if you are experiencing scheduling problems. >We brought up our > children cycling, That's great, but now that they have to be places quickly it's an outdated method of travel, ineffecient for today's travel requirements. >and now that they're older (one is a Junior in > High School and the other is a Freshman in college), they have continued > the good habit. I commute by bicycle to work year round, regardless of > weather, unless the roads are treacherous. My commute is 8 miles. You're one of the hazards on the roads if you ride during bad weather. > Nowadays, if I lived in a large city with mass transit, I would combine > mass transit with a nice folding bicycle. Why would you need a folding bicycle? Buses have racks on the front of them for carrying bicycles of those that want to appear as if they rode the bicycle to work. {;^) > In my family, we have one car for 4 licensed drivers. We brought up our > children cycling, and now that they're older (one is a Junior in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Jim Gagnepain > http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ i congratulate you on your commitment to the environment. if more people practiced similar lifestyles, then we might not find it necessary to fight wars over oil. however, i have yet to see a bicycle that does not use rubber, grease, and plastic. indeed, they will quickly grind to a halt without oil of some type. > > In my family, we have one car for 4 licensed drivers. We brought up our > > children cycling, and now that they're older (one is a Junior in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jim Gagnepain > > http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ by the way, your page would load a heck of a lot faster if you resized the image of the backpack to the size the web page uses rather than depend on the browser to resize it... i was able to get it down to just 27 KB and still have it look fine. Thanks manic mechanic. I'll try that! >if you resized the image of the backpack to the size the web page uses rather than depend on the browser to resize it... I'd call this quibbling. I ran some calculations a while back, and at my current chain lube usage, I would have to live to 176 years old to go through 1 gallon. I'd call that oil-free. Also, at the moment when I purchased my plastic veneered helmet 12 years ago, I wasn't oil free. But when I ride my bicycle, I am. Jim Gagnepain http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ >however, i have yet to see a bicycle that does not use rubber, grease, and plastic. > In my family, we have one car for 4 licensed drivers. We brought up our > children cycling, and now that they're older (one is a Junior in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Jim Gagnepain > http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ HUH? Ok here goes my random babbling: In my family we have three coffee drinkers. When the kids were younger I was the only one but they started as they got older (one is a Junior in HS and one is just out of college). I pick up a cup of coffee on my way home and drink it with a straw because the roads have many potholes in them and don't like to get coffee on my clothes. My commute is 7 miles. If I lived in a large city with mass transit, I might bring a thermos with me so I can refill my cup while commuting. Remco (I always wanted to get that off my chest and since we're telling random stories, this seemed like a good time to do it :) > HUH? Ok here goes my random babbling: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > (I always wanted to get that off my chest and since we're telling > random stories, this seemed like a good time to do it :) ... I had an onion on my belt, 'cause that was the fashion at the time... Grandpa Simpson > If I lived in a large city with mass transit, If governments weren't obsessed with outlawing private companies from offering mass transit, and weren't so obsessed with legislating transit monopolies for themselves, we might see more mass transit so you wouldn't spill your drink. A couple of years ago we had an example of this bizarre government mindset at work in my community. As a result, we still have no mass transit of any kind. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > > If I lived in a large city with mass transit, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ > www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ See?? Dont' you guys feel better getting this random rambling off your chest? As for the guy that started the thread: get a haircut, you stinkfoot hippy!! :) Profound statement, Remco. I'll leave it at that, and refrain from any other reply. Jim Gagnepain http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ >As for the guy that started the thread: get a haircut, you stinkfoot hippy!! :) > Profound statement, Remco. I'll leave it at that, and refrain from any > other reply. > Jim Gagnepain Thank you - usually I try and other times I do not. This morning I did not. :) Seriously, why did you post this powderkeg in a news group dedicated to the repair and maintenance of Hondas? It is like posting recipes of how to cook meat in a vegetarian group - that would make no sense either. I don't think it is a bad idea to take the bike to work, walk more, use the car less, etc. My reply was not a reflection of how I feel about that subject, more on the what and how you posted. Flaming is a proud internet tradition, so expect it if you go off topic without stating "OT:" in the subject line. Also, the way you come across in your original message reminds me of the "south park" hybrid vehicle episode - watch it and see if you can find yourself. Remco > http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/ > > >As for the guy that started the thread: get a haircut, you stinkfoot > hippy!! :) The description of the group is "Honda Acura". I saw posts about Civics in here, without "OT", but I could care less about that. I'll defend my position instead. Honda owners are usually pretty Eco-Minded. I was simply trying to offer an even broader way to expand that thought process. Cycling offers that, while at the same time, it is great exercise. Jim Gagnepain >My reply was not a reflection of how I feel about that subject, more on the what and how you posted. Flaming is a proud internet tradition, so expect it if you go off topic without stating "OT:" in the subject line. > The description of the group is "Honda Acura". I saw posts about > Civics in here, without "OT", but > I could care less about that. I'll defend my position instead. Jim, you couldn't _possibly_ be that stupid and I don't think you are. You are simply defending your position with a ignorant argument:. It is netiquette to first lurk in a group to see what it is all about. If you did that, you would have noticed that this group is about Hondas and Accuras - they are the same cars! You would have also noticed that we discuss repair procedures and address problems on these cars. Btw, a Honda Civic is a Honda, as is an Accord. An Accura Integra is also a Honda civic, etc. In other words, you would have known this if you lurked. So say that Civics post should be OT is disingenuous - stop the insanity, please! > Honda owners are usually pretty Eco-Minded. I was simply trying to > offer an even broader way to expand > that thought process. Cycling offers that, while at the same time, it > is great exercise. > Jim Gagnepain Some may be ecominded, but the two are mutually exclusive. You come across as smug, in both your original post and subsequent posts. If you knew anything about newsgroups, you know your behavior is considered "trolling" -- google it, as I think you are an internet newbie. If you had started your post with "OT: Who prefers riding bicycles to work instead of cars?", we would have happily chimed in (I certainly would have). If you say you want us to expand our horizons with your message, learn netiquette or be flamed and ignored. You will not be taken serious with your behavior. Remco > >My reply was not a reflection of how I feel about that subject, more on the what and how you posted. > Flaming is a proud internet tradition, so expect it if you go off topic > without stating "OT:" in the subject line. > The description of the group is "Honda Acura". I saw posts about > Civics in here, without "OT", but > I could care less about that. I'll defend my position instead. Who the hell do you think makes civics? There is no such thing as a "Honda Acura". Maybe a "Toyota Lexus"? > See?? Dont' you guys feel better getting this random rambling off your > chest? > > As for the guy that started the thread: get a haircut, you stinkfoot > hippy!! :) Nobody even commented on my cool Smug-O-Meter ASCII graphic. :( SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > > See?? Dont' you guys feel better getting this random rambling off your > > chest? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -- I liked it enough to copy it and am just waiting to reuse it, John :) >> > See?? Dont' you guys feel better getting this random rambling off your >> > chest? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I liked it enough to copy it and am just waiting to reuse it, John :) I altered it from an existing Troll-O-Meter graphic I already had. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > I altered it from an existing Troll-O-Meter graphic I already had. We also need a "Bogometer" (measures 'bogusness', mentioned by Clifford Stoll in his great book, The Cuckoo's Egg). We don't see all that much bogus advice here, but when it does come along we should be ready. Mike >> > See?? Dont' you guys feel better getting this random rambling off your >> > chest? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I liked it enough to copy it and am just waiting to reuse it, John :) By the way, I also have a "middle finger" ASCII graphic, if you want that too. ;) SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > >> > See?? Dont' you guys feel better getting this random rambling off your > >> > chest? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > By the way, I also have a "middle finger" ASCII graphic, if you want that > too. ;) Soi-tenly!! I have one but it isn't very good :) >> By the way, I also have a "middle finger" ASCII graphic, if you want >> that too. ;) > > Soi-tenly!! I have one but it isn't very good :) Check your mail. Embarrassingly, I also sent it to Curly by mistake... SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ On 3/30/2006 7:14 PM TeGGeR® spake these words of knowledge: >>> By the way, I also have a "middle finger" ASCII graphic, if you want >>> that too. ;) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Embarrassingly, I also sent it to Curly by mistake... No worries, mate; you know Curly deserved it.... ;^) RFT!!! Dave Kelsen SignatureI drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol. >>> By the way, I also have a "middle finger" ASCII graphic, if you want >>> that too. ;) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Embarrassingly, I also sent it to Curly by mistake... LOL!! I needed a good laugh tonight. I hope Curly has a sense of humor tonight, too. MIke > >> By the way, I also have a "middle finger" ASCII graphic, if you want > >> that too. ;) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ > www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ -------------------------------------- OOooh, A wise guy ! I'm a citizen ! Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk. 'Curly' On 3/30/06 7:23 AM, in article Xns97965580724D9tegger@207.14.113.17, >> If I lived in a large city with mass transit, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > at work in my community. As a result, we still have no mass transit of any > kind. I don't buy that argument. Where I came from (Chicago 'burbs), the local private mass transportation companies all died natural deaths in the '70s when everybody started driving themselves. Ridership went down below profitable levels and that was it. The regional government transit monopolies that we saw (and continue to see in many places) were started because the numbers didn't add up and the citizens demanded busses anyway, not because of some insidious government plot. When no one rode those busses either, mass transit simply went away in the smaller towns. I think if you could demonstrate a viable business model for mass transit, you would have some. > On 3/30/06 7:23 AM, in article Xns97965580724D9tegger@207.14.113.17, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > the '70s when everybody started driving themselves. Ridership went > down below profitable levels and that was it. Private transport companies are typically under crushing regulations dictating when, where, and how they may (or MUST) offer service, what sort of vehicles they may (or may NOT, or MUST use), and how much (or how little) they can charge. When faced with rigid rules like that, it's no wonder they go out of business, or end up surviving on subsidies. 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