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Car Forum / Honda Cars / April 2006

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91 Honda Accord Lx (Won't Start)

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Susie67 - 08 Apr 2006 06:56 GMT
I own a "91" Honda Accord Lx that is really tring to give me a nerves brake down
            Engine-F22A1,2.2L SOHC PFI 16V,Automatic(L4)transmission 4door sedan

I'm having starting problems and I'm looking for help everywhere I can.Here is what it's doing .........
.........In the begining it would start and just shut down as I'm driving,I'll wait about 10 minutes and it would restart.Now it won't start at all,I just replaced the whole distrutor ,plugs and plug wires.She is getting fire.Yesterday I did get it to start again but when I shut it off it wouldn't start right back up,I'd wait about 30-45 minutes and it would restart but not instantly.I would have to hold the key and let it crank,somtimes til the battery almost drained and then it would fire off. And again,shut it off and I'm dead in the water again.(Figure of speech) Somebody PLEASE HELP ME..........Oh,I know I'm not supposed it pump a fuel injected motor but I did.Gas can be smelled under the hood.My question is:If fuel filter is cloged can gas be smelled? I also get a lot of pressure build up in gas tank,when I remove gas cap it has a massive amount of air.All suggestions welcome,I'm without a ride,single mom with handicap child.This is very important.Thank You to ALL that help

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Susie67
Remco - 08 Apr 2006 14:17 GMT
> I own a "91" Honda Accord Lx that is really tring to give me a nerves brake down.
>              Engine-F22A1,2.2L SOHC PFI 16V,Automatic(L4)transmission 4door sedan.
>
> I'm having starting problems and I'm looking for help everywhere I can.Here is what it's doing ..........
> ..........In the begining it would start and just shut down as I'm driving,I'll wait about 10 minutes and it would restart.Now it won't start at all,I just replaced the whole distrutor ,plugs and plug wires.She is getting fire.Yesterday I did get it to start again but when I shut it off it wouldn't start right back up,I'd wait about 30-45 minutes and it would restart but not instantly.I would have to hold the key and let it crank,somtimes til the battery almost drained and then it would fire off. And again,shut it off and I'm dead in the water again.(Figure of speech) Somebody PLEASE HELP ME..........Oh,I know I'm not supposed it pump a fuel injected motor but I did.Gas can be smelled under the hood.My question is:If fuel filter is cloged can gas be smelled? I also get a lot of pressure build up in gas tank,when I remove gas cap it has a massive amount of air.All suggestions welcome,I'm without a ride,single mom with handicap child.This is very important.Thank You to ALL that help.

Could be a clogged injector, flooding the engine. Could also be your
fuel pressure, being too high (pressure regulator). Are you able to
measure your fuel pressure?

Remco
Elle - 08 Apr 2006 17:00 GMT
At least review the tips at
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun .

When you say you replaced the whole distributor, do you mean
you put in a new distributor cap, distributor rotor,
ignition coil, igniter, and housing?

Are all the new parts you installed genuine Honda ones?

Do dump a bottle of Chevron Techron injector cleaner (about
$6 a bottle) into a near empty fuel tank, fill with gas, and
then see if that helps.

> I own a "91" Honda Accord Lx that is really tring to give
> me a nerves brake down.
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> without a ride,single mom with handicap child.This is very
> important.Thank You to ALL that help.
'Curly Q. Links' - 08 Apr 2006 23:42 GMT
> I own a "91" Honda Accord Lx that is really tring to give me a nerves brake down.
>              Engine-F22A1,2.2L SOHC PFI 16V,Automatic(L4)transmission 4door sedan.
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> Susie67

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Forget the fuel filter. You have NO symptoms of a plugged fuel filter.

If you think it's FLOODING, do what the owner's manual says to do for
flooding: hold the pedal to the floor and crank it for up to 15 seconds
at a time. A dribbling injector can flood a Honda overnight. Your
symptoms are wrong, mostly.

When it won't start, turn it off again and then flip the key in position
II. If you hear the fuel pump run for two seconds, it should start. If
you don't hear the two second pump, smack the dash on the left side of
the steering wheel (assuming you're in North Amerika)and listen to the
fuel pump run for two seconds . . . . Car will now start.

It's the MAIN RELAY that needs to be resoldered. Once it runs it will
stay running until you stop the VIBRATION (or cool the interior) which
is what you have done before.

'Curly'
larson.joshua@gmail.com - 09 Apr 2006 06:24 GMT
curly is *probably* right about the main relay.  i don't know about
smacking the dash, but this is a super common issue with the 91 civic.

you can either pull the main relay and heat up all the contact points
with a soldering iron to reestablish a good connection (over time the
solder joints crack and cause intermittent contact due to temperature
change thereby causing intermittent fuel pump functionality) or just
replace it.  the civic main relay is about $60 at napa.

good luck!

josh
Susie67 - 09 Apr 2006 02:30 GMT
I put some cheap injector cleaner in it about a week before it quit running.Could some gunk have broken loose from fuel filter and gotten through line and plugged something up some where else? I am not a wizz in auto repair,so this is just a thought.If I tap on the fuel filter it will start up but as soon as I shut it off it won't start again

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Susie67 - 10 Apr 2006 15:51 GMT
Hi,I haven't tried any of your idea yet,but I was wondering if a bad spark plug would also keep it from starting?The reason I'm asking this is because I did put some used spare plugs I had in it and it started and restarted 4 times so I then went for a test drive and went about a block and it just cut off again no sputter it just died

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Susie67
Susie67 - 10 Apr 2006 17:44 GMT
Thanks to all.I think I found the problem in the fuel relay under the dash.I haven't replaced it yet but gently moving it seems to have done the trick.Oh,but yes,I will be replacing it real soon

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Susie67
 
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