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Car Forum / Honda Cars / April 2006Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a reputable shop to do the repair work. Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA? I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs replacing. I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will take a day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000. Is this reasonable? Suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance, - Pat > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a > reputable shop to do the repair work. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks in advance, > - Pat ========================================== Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried? (like the 5 W's) Maybe you don't need a shop at all? 'Curly' The car has 123K miles. When doing a semi-hard acceleration, the engines RPMs increase, but the car doesn't goes faster. After a few secounds it slowly start accelerating. You can "feel" the clutch slip. Are you familiar with any shops in Richmond? Thanks, - Pat > > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a > > reputable shop to do the repair work. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > 'Curly' "Pat Dreiding" <patrickdreiding@verizon.net> wrote in news:o7Y%f.384 $V73.172@trnddc06: > The car has 123K miles. When doing a semi-hard acceleration, the engines > RPMs increase, but the car doesn't goes faster. After a few secounds it [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> 'Curly' Are you revving it too hard before the clutch has fully engaged? In my experience OEM Honda clutches slip badly and aren't for racing. When they heat up they'll slip even more. I once took my Civic on a 3 hour drive to Virginia Beach beatin the sh.t out of it the whole way, and when I finally got there my car just stopped going even though I was stepping on the gas because the clutch was slipping 100%. Had to roll it off the interstate and then wait about 10 minutes for the clutch disc to cool off before I could move again. I could smell it burning (clutch material smells kinda like burning hair, but worse). Got it switched to a performance clutch and flywheel and I can do some serious clutch popping and hard launches with no problems. If you go for a hard launch (or any kind of launch) and you feel the clutch slipping let off of it right away (don't rev it harder). Chances are it will get progressively worse. Take it easy on your clutch for a while. > Are you revving it too hard before the clutch has fully engaged? In > my experience OEM Honda clutches slip badly and aren't for racing. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Got it switched to a performance clutch and flywheel and I can do > some serious clutch popping and hard launches with no problems. In years gone by 'woman owned and driven' meant that you were looking at a car that wasn't abused. That phrase hasn't meant that for quite awhile. {;^) >> Are you revving it too hard before the clutch has fully engaged? In >> my experience OEM Honda clutches slip badly and aren't for racing. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > In years gone by 'woman owned and driven' meant that you were looking > at a car that wasn't abused. That phrase hasn't meant that for quite > awhile. {;^) Driving slow makes me nervous unless I have a good stereo system to mellow me out. > Driving slow makes me nervous unless I have a good stereo system to > mellow me out. To make the roads safer, perhaps you shouldn't be placed in a position of having care and control of a vehicle then. {;^) >> Driving slow makes me nervous unless I have a good stereo system to >> mellow me out. > > To make the roads safer, perhaps you shouldn't be placed in a position > of having care and control of a vehicle then. {;^) 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even came close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment violations though. Not too happy about those. > 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even came > close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment violations > though. > Not too happy about those. I rest my case. You don't belong on the road. >> 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even >> came close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment >> violations though. >> Not too happy about those. > > I rest my case. You don't belong on the road. I won't argue with you. Too bad you can't do anything about it, aye? :) I rest my case. > I won't argue with you. Too bad you can't do anything about it, aye? :) I > rest my case. Ah, there is where you are wrong. Here one can take note of the time, location antics of a driver, licence plate and lay a complaint with the police. They will then locate the driver and lay charges, for what was observed and reported. So pay attention to the job at hand when you're operating a vehicle, the same ability might be available to your neighbours. >> I won't argue with you. Too bad you can't do anything about it, aye? >> :) I rest my case. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you're operating a vehicle, the same ability might be available to > your neighbours. Like I said, too bad you can't do anything about it, aye? On 4/16/2006 6:28 PM Brian Smith spake these words of knowledge: >> 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even came >> close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment violations >> though. >> Not too happy about those. > > I rest my case. You don't belong on the road. I'd just like to say, "f.ck you, son; get the stick out of your a.s." Isn't usenet great? You get to be a self-righteous ignorant prig and I get to be a vulgar bastard. Ahh. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen  SignatureI don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. > I'd just like to say, "f.ck you, son; get the stick out of your a.s." > Isn't usenet great? You get to be a self-righteous ignorant prig and I > get to be a vulgar bastard. Ahh. As a professional driver with many miles under my wheels without an incident of any kind. I have to say that I have seen a lot of stupidity by small vehicle drivers that have caused a lot of death and destruction, just because they were operating without due care and control of their charges. What you have to say, doesn't amount to a very high pile of crap at all. {;^) >> I'd just like to say, "f.ck you, son; get the stick out of your a.s." >> Isn't usenet great? You get to be a self-righteous ignorant prig and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > control of their charges. What you have to say, doesn't amount to a > very high pile of crap at all. {;^) Professional driver. That's funny sh.t man. Okay... so we have a contributor who says he is a professional driver (a credible claim - there is nothing rare about that) and another who admits to speeding as a regular exercise, thinks 400K is a long driving record and replies "Professional driver. That's funny sh.t man." Who is the more credible? I'm not a pro driver (although I have recently been putting 1000 hwy miles a week on my company truck... northern Arizona is a pretty large service area), but I certainly passed the million mile mark some time ago. Long before that I decided speeding is a fool's game; increased risk of unspeakable horror without tangible gain is not smart. Every experienced driver has known at least one time he or she wished with all of his or her heart to be going slower or that the brakes would stop quicker. Why on earth would somebody deliberately throw away the opportunity to make that come true? Mike > Okay... so we have a contributor who says he is a professional driver > (a credible claim - there is nothing rare about that) and another who [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mike Sure, maybe you're right, but it's not his place to judge me. Even if he is a professional driver, I have many friends who are "professional" drivers, with sponsors and the whole 9 yards. They don't judge me. If he thinks I'm going to just up and slow down because he's a "pro" he can eat a dick. And the comment about women drivers was uncalled for. Anyways I'm out of this thread. >> Okay... so we have a contributor who says he is a professional driver >> (a credible claim - there is nothing rare about that) and another who [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >eat a dick. And the comment about women drivers was uncalled for. >Anyways I'm out of this thread. anyone with a class A license is a professional driver, you have a class A license? > Okay... so we have a contributor who says he is a professional driver (a > credible claim - there is nothing rare about that) and another who admits [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > quicker. Why on earth would somebody deliberately throw away the > opportunity to make that come true? That's the truth, especially when being cut off by idiot drivers of small vehicles. I appreciate everyone's inputs. The car is a 97' Civic EX with 123K miles. The questions I need answered are: 1. Does anyone has a suggestion for reputable repair shop in Richmond, VA? 2. Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA? 3. Is $1,000 a reasonable charge for Clutch plate and Bearing replacement? Thanks again, - Pat > > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a > > reputable shop to do the repair work. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > 'Curly' > I appreciate everyone's inputs. The car is a 97' Civic EX with 123K > miles. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> >> 'Curly' $1000 is a bit much. I got a brand new lightweight flywheel, performance clutch disc, plate, plus bearings for about 400, and then installed a little less than 400. If he's getting you an OEM clutch plate and bearing, that's a lot of excess he's charging for labor. Albeit he's probably going on his pre-calculated "hours" to do the job, charging you $60 or more per hour. You'd have better luck driving to Barboursville and visiting High Speed Auto. Ask for Rick. It's a little less than 2 hours from Richmond. If you want directions let me know. > I appreciate everyone's inputs. The car is a 97' Civic EX with 123K > miles. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > 3. Is $1,000 a reasonable charge for Clutch plate and Bearing > replacement? The only thing I can comment on is the cost. One thousand bucks is way, WAY too much. Do you have a breakdown of the quote? If so, could you post it here, line by line? SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a > reputable shop to do the repair work. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Thanks in advance, > - Pat That price sounds pretty high. I recommend you shop around some more - it will probably save you a few hundred dollars. There aren't many corners to cut that would lower the price, but some independent shops charge what they figure they can do it for rather than the "book" rate. A clutch job involves removing the transmission and replacing the clutch disk, the pressure plate that clamps the disk to the flywheel when the clutch pedal isn't depressed, the throwout bearing that lets the pressure plate turn while the fork (operated by the pedal) doesn't turn, and the pilot bearing in the flywheel that supports the end of the gearbox input shaft. The flywheel surface is lathed to make it flat again. We did the clutch in my son's Integra a couple months ago. The aftermarket parts were about $250 and the job was an all day affair for us amateurs, with the usual struggle to get the gearbox in place afterward. (I strained a muscle in my jaw from clenching my face - it hurt for three days!) Mike |
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