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Oil cap left off after oil change

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Ray - 09 May 2006 01:55 GMT
My sister just found that the oil cap was left off of her 1999 Accord during the oil change over a month ago.  Surprisingly, it was less than a quart low.  BUT, the oil had attacked her windshield wiper blade and hood gasket.  She wants the store where she had the oil changed to replace what might have been damaged, but what else might that be?  Has Honda ever put out a service bulletin listing what might be damaged by oil?

Ray
jim beam - 09 May 2006 02:43 GMT
> My sister just found that the oil cap was left off of her 1999 Accord during the oil change over a month ago.  Surprisingly, it was less than a quart low.  BUT, the oil had attacked her windshield wiper blade and hood gasket.  She wants the store where she had the oil changed to replace what might have been damaged, but what else might that be?  Has Honda ever put out a service bulletin listing what might be damaged by oil?
>
> Ray

rubber is damaged by oil.  in addition, you want to be worried about
grit ingestion.  otoh, if a driver doesn't check the oil for a whole
month and doesn't notice the omission, i'm not very sympathetic.

regarding the last question, no, there's no service bulletin for
inability to follow basic maintenance procedures.
Alan - 09 May 2006 03:52 GMT
> > My sister just found that the oil cap was left off of her 1999 Accord during the oil change over a month ago.  Surprisingly, it was less than a quart low.  BUT, the oil had attacked her windshield wiper blade and hood gasket.  She wants the store where she had the oil changed to replace what might have been damaged, but what else might that be?  Has Honda ever put out a service bulletin listing what might be damaged by oil?
> >
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> regarding the last question, no, there's no service bulletin for
> inability to follow basic maintenance procedures.

Steam cleaning the engine compartment is probably the best thing to do.
Now wait a minute... if rubber is damaged by oil then how do you
explain why there is grease inside CV Boots, Ball Joints, etc. not to
mention rubber hoses and so on that carry oil.
jim beam - 09 May 2006 04:10 GMT
>>>My sister just found that the oil cap was left off of her 1999 Accord during the oil change over a month ago.  Surprisingly, it was less than a quart low.  BUT, the oil had attacked her windshield wiper blade and hood gasket.  She wants the store where she had the oil changed to replace what might have been damaged, but what else might that be?  Has Honda ever put out a service bulletin listing what might be damaged by oil?
>>>
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> explain why there is grease inside CV Boots, Ball Joints, etc. not to
> mention rubber hoses and so on that carry oil.

"rubber" covers a multitude of elasto-polymers.  some, like neoprenes,
are oil resistant.  others aren't.  radiator hoses, windshield seals,
brake hoses, are typically rubbers that aren't, or at least, aren't
rated for it, even if they appear to hold up ok for a while.

steam cleaning the engine compartment, while it produces quick results,
is a great way to cause electrical problems up the wazoo and contaminate
the brake system.  better to use engine cleaner and a gentle hose,
avoiding the brake reservoir.
Michael Pardee - 10 May 2006 13:25 GMT
> "rubber" covers a multitude of elasto-polymers.  some, like neoprenes, are
> oil resistant.  others aren't.  radiator hoses, windshield seals, brake
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> brake system.  better to use engine cleaner and a gentle hose, avoiding
> the brake reservoir.

Yes indeed - natural rubber tends to soak up oil, creating a goo of rubbery
oil (or is it oily rubber?) Just about all the synthetics are okay with
petroleum. In addition, natural rubber can handle all sorts of synthetic
lubricants, including most lubricating greases.

I'm a convert to Simple Green for engine cleaning. No big reason - I just
like it.

Mike
jim beam - 10 May 2006 14:32 GMT
>>"rubber" covers a multitude of elasto-polymers.  some, like neoprenes, are
>>oil resistant.  others aren't.  radiator hoses, windshield seals, brake
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>
> Mike

simple green has a very bad reputation in the bike world for stress
corrosion.
Brian Smith - 10 May 2006 14:51 GMT
> simple green has a very bad reputation in the bike world for stress
> corrosion.

I wonder if it would corrode some of my stress away?        {;^0
Michael Pardee - 11 May 2006 13:26 GMT
>> I'm a convert to Simple Green for engine cleaning. No big reason - I just
>> like it.
>>
>> Mike
> simple green has a very bad reputation in the bike world for stress
> corrosion.

I didn't know that! Googling produced quite a few hits, including
http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/9216.0.html
It appears the hazard comes from prolonged exposure, in this case soaking
chains in Simple Green. I haven't been actively riding for some time now (as
my body shape proclaims!) but when I did I soaked my chains overnight in
motor oil, not water-based stuff.

Mike
L Alpert - 13 May 2006 12:21 GMT
>> "rubber" covers a multitude of elasto-polymers.  some, like
>> neoprenes, are oil resistant.  others aren't.  radiator hoses,
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> rubbery oil (or is it oily rubber?) Just about all the synthetics are
> okay with petroleum.

The phrase "all synthetics" would be a stretch, as there are many polymers
based products that are not rated for use with petroleum products (most,
actually), though those used by the auto industry are, by design.

> In addition, natural rubber can handle all sorts
> of synthetic lubricants, including most lubricating greases.
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>
> Mike
gfretwell@aol.com - 10 May 2006 02:25 GMT
>My sister just found that the oil cap was left off of her 1999 Accord during the oil change over a month ago.  Surprisingly, it was less than a quart low.  BUT, the oil had attacked her windshield wiper blade and hood gasket.  She wants the store where she had the oil changed to replace what might have been damaged, but what else might that be?  Has Honda ever put out a service bulletin listing what might be damaged by oil?
>
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I drove Chevys and Fords for years that blew oil. Wash it off and get
on with your life. Some stuff that would have rusted will last a
little longer. Everything else will be fine.
Alan - 10 May 2006 02:39 GMT
> >My sister just found that the oil cap was left off of her 1999 Accord during the oil change over a month ago.  Surprisingly, it was less than a quart low.  BUT, the oil had attacked her windshield wiper blade and hood gasket.  She wants the store where she had the oil changed to replace what might have been damaged, but what else might that be?  Has Honda ever put out a service bulletin listing what might be damaged by oil?
> >
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> on with your life. Some stuff that would have rusted will last a
> little longer. Everything else will be fine.

Hmmm ... that's an idea of how to get rid of unlocatable squeaks.
 
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