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Car Forum / Honda Cars / June 2006Dirty tactics by Honda dealers
Tried to get a look at a Honda Fit today. Local dealers don't have one so I called a dealer 35 miles away, they said they had one on the lot. I was there in less than an hour and they said, "oh, sorry, someone just drove off with it." Then they tried to push other cars on me. Thanks a.sholes. You lie to get me to drive a long distance for nothing then try to pressure me into buying something I don't want. Bye bye, Honda! Hello Ford Focus! > Tried to get a look at a Honda Fit today. Local dealers don't have one so I called a dealer 35 > miles away, they said they had one on the lot. I was there in less than an hour and they said, "oh, > sorry, someone just drove off with it." Then they tried to push other cars on me. Thanks a.sholes. > You lie to get me to drive a long distance for nothing then try to pressure me into buying something > I don't want. Bye bye, Honda! Hello Ford Focus! I've been to dealers that had Fits on the lot. The next day, they were gone. Maybe it really did sell. > I've been to dealers that had Fits on the lot. The next day, > they were gone. Maybe it really did sell. Some salesmen / dealers are awful liars about this stuff, so I wouldn't hesitate to ask them to look up the VIN for the vehicle I was coming out to see. If they give you one that shows up on CarFax as already having been sold, you know what to think ...  SignatureCL. +-----------------------------------------+ | Charles Lasitter | Mailing / Shipping | | 401/728-1987 | 14 Cooke St | | cl+at+ncdm+dot+com | Pawtucket RI 02860 | +-----------------------------------------+ > I've been to dealers that had Fits on the lot. The next day, they were gone. > Maybe it really did sell. I guess it doesn't really matter, does it? Bottom line is it's impossible to buy one or even look at one, so I might as well forget about it. For all practical purposes, the Fit doesn't even exist. I haven't even seen one on the road. It's so much easier and cheaper to just buy the Ford Focus. >>I've been to dealers that had Fits on the lot. The next day, they were gone. >>Maybe it really did sell. > > I guess it doesn't really matter, does it? Bottom line is it's impossible to buy one or even look > at one, so I might as well forget about it. For all practical purposes, the Fit doesn't even exist. > I haven't even seen one on the road. It's so much easier and cheaper to just buy the Ford Focus. Well then, have fun with your Ford dealership... don't let the hatch hit ya in the a.s... bye now... take care... > Well then, have fun with your Ford dealership... don't let the hatch hit ya in the a.s... bye > now... take care... WOW! Am I glad I couldn't find a Fit. The Focus has a more powerful engine and is $5,000 cheaper! Jeeze, the Fit is just an overpriced ripoff. BYE! > WOW! Am I glad I couldn't find a Fit. The Focus has a more powerful engine > and is $5,000 cheaper! You found a Focus for $11K and it includes aluminum wheels, and auto transmission? No sh.t? Enjoy the Ford. Keep in mind the FIT will be in stock when you are fed up with that piece of s#$T. I'd say in about 6 months? G-Man >> Well then, have fun with your Ford dealership... don't let the hatch hit >> ya in the a.s... bye now... take care... > > WOW! Am I glad I couldn't find a Fit. The Focus has a more powerful > engine and is $5,000 cheaper! Jeeze, the Fit is just an overpriced ripoff. > BYE! >> Well then, have fun with your Ford dealership... don't let the hatch hit ya in the a.s... bye >> now... take care... > > WOW! Am I glad I couldn't find a Fit. The Focus has a more powerful engine and is $5,000 cheaper! > Jeeze, the Fit is just an overpriced ripoff. BYE! The fact that the FIT is $5,000 more does not necessarily mean that the Focus is the better value. It may mean that the FIT is worth the difference. > The fact that the FIT is $5,000 more does not necessarily mean that the Focus is the better value. > It may mean that the FIT is worth the difference. If you believe that then you should go buy one right now. After reading 100's of blogs from new Fit owners, there's no way I'm going to be stupid enough to buy a Fit, especially at the ripoff price they're asking for it right now. You just go right ahead. I hope you like paying for company hype. But of course, ignorance is bliss, right? ENJOY!!! >> The fact that the FIT is $5,000 more does not necessarily mean that the Focus is the better value. >> It may mean that the FIT is worth the difference. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > they're asking for it right now. You just go right ahead. I hope you like paying for company > hype. But of course, ignorance is bliss, right? ENJOY!!! I don't want a Fit. I have a new vehicle. You're the one looking for a car and one of your choices was a Fit. My point was that just because a vehicle costs more doesn't necessarily mean it's too expensive or not worth it. >> Well then, have fun with your Ford dealership... don't let the hatch hit ya in the a.s... bye >> now... take care... > > WOW! Am I glad I couldn't find a Fit. The Focus has a more powerful engine and is $5,000 cheaper! > Jeeze, the Fit is just an overpriced ripoff. BYE! It is so important to have a more powerful engine in an economy car! > It is so important to have a more powerful engine in an economy car! It gets the same gas mileage, so why not? > I guess it doesn't really matter, does it? Bottom line is it's impossible > to buy one or even look at one, so I might as well forget about it. For > all practical purposes, the Fit doesn't even exist. I haven't even seen > one on the road. I've seen some of them around here, and I don't mean sitting at the dealer. > It's so much easier and cheaper to just buy the Ford Focus. It may be cheaper to buy. But depending on how long to plan to keep it, it will likely cost more to maintain. > > I guess it doesn't really matter, does it? Bottom line is it's impossible > > to buy one or even look at one, so I might as well forget about it. For [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It may be cheaper to buy. But depending on how long to plan to keep it, it > will likely cost more to maintain. I thought Focus is only moderately bastardized Mazda 3. No? Probably built in Mexico though. As much as I dislike american cars I should say the only one I had (Taurus) was very cheap to own. No major problems. Unlike the japanese car that replaced it. So YMMV greatly. I think that the american vs japanese reliability issue is a BS. American cars are just about as reliable. Especially the very few ones that are a hoot to drive. If the guy wants a Focus what's wrong with it? People still buy Lotus 7 circa mid 20th century in the Caterham disguise. Not that I'm implying that Focus is anything like Lotus fun-to-drive-wise :-D >> > I guess it doesn't really matter, does it? Bottom line is it's impossible >> > to buy one or even look at one, so I might as well forget about it. For [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >I thought Focus is only moderately bastardized Mazda 3. No? No, focus is a ford europe design, modified for the Us. Been out almost 10 years now, couldn't move for them at the UK motorshow98, both inside and out. >Probably built in Mexico though. As much as I dislike american cars >I should say the only one I had (Taurus) was very cheap to own. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >that >Focus is anything like Lotus fun-to-drive-wise :-D I've drievn caterhams (blasted round silverstone in a superlight r500) Its amazing to drive, light, nimble, afst, although not hugely powerfull. It is a great car. > >ones that are a hoot to drive. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Its amazing to drive, light, nimble, afst, although not hugely > powerfull. It is a great car. Too bad someone haven't though of slapping a roof and A/C on it and sell it in the US. I guess Elise is close. The Caterham kits are as expensive and if I wanted an open air car I'd get a cycle. What's the point of a car with no canopy and an A/C? It's a bike with 4 wheels then. >> >ones that are a hoot to drive. >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Too bad someone haven't though of slapping a roof and A/C on it and >sell it in the US. putting a roof on woul make it kinda hard to get in-out of. They're a bit low for doing it Duke-style. >I guess Elise is close. Gota friend with a still mint condition, custom made elise, on a T-plate, i think, was custom made for some guy, he put about 500 miles on, didn't like it and sold it for £5000 (about $8000 back then). Course, I much prefer the exige, a lot more grip. >The Caterham kits are as expensive and if I wanted an open air car I'd >get a cycle. What's the >point of a car with no canopy and an A/C? It's a bike with 4 wheels >then. The point is they're designed to be track cars. They're a small development ont he lotus 7, which was a formula1 car. I did want a R500 but nowadays, I'm looking more towards the atom2. Of course, I spent my fair share of time in iopen-air kit cars in all sorts of weather. friend had a Jago I used to help him with, took to all the shows around - he just sold it on ebay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4644088807&sspagename=ADME: B:AAQ:UK:1 mainly because he's got a metal bodied one now, based on a suzuki platform.I tell ya, that think was hell to be in above 40mph, let alone when it rained. If it wasn't illegal, we'd have worn crash helmets, so we could talk, look and breathe easily. > I think that the american vs japanese reliability issue is a BS. > American cars are just about as reliable. Especially the very few > ones that are a hoot to drive. Not from my experiences and the experiences of my family. Most of the North American cars we owned were crap, while our Japanese cars have been very reliable. > > > I guess it doesn't really matter, does it? Bottom line is it's impossible > > > to buy one or even look at one, so I might as well forget about it. For [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > No major problems. Unlike the japanese car that replaced it. So YMMV > greatly. You DON'T want to hear of my Taurus experience then as it's in the nightmare category... > I think that the american vs japanese reliability issue is a BS. > American cars are just about as reliable. Especially the very few > ones that are a hoot to drive. How long have you been delusional? > If the guy wants a Focus what's wrong with it? People still buy Lotus 7 > circa mid 20th century in the Caterham disguise. Not that I'm implying > that > Focus is anything like Lotus fun-to-drive-wise :-D Everyone should have their choice of poison... JT > > I guess it doesn't really matter, does it? Bottom line is it's impossible > > to buy one or even look at one, so I might as well forget about it. For [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It may be cheaper to buy. But depending on how long to plan to keep it, it > will likely cost more to maintain. If you only keep it for the length of the warranty, what's the difference? >>> It's so much easier and cheaper to just buy the Ford Focus. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If you only keep it for the length of the warranty, what's the > difference? In that case, the difference is time lost and plans changed due to having to take the Focus back to the dealer for unforeseen repairs. >> I've been to dealers that had Fits on the lot. The next day, they were gone. >> Maybe it really did sell. > > I guess it doesn't really matter, does it? Bottom line is it's impossible to buy one or even look > at one, so I might as well forget about it. For all practical purposes, the Fit doesn't even exist. > I haven't even seen one on the road. It's so much easier and cheaper to just buy the Ford Focus. So, you'd rather buy a Focus that's easily available or try to find a FIT that both you and most likely many others (since they're selling well) actually want? > So, you'd rather buy a Focus that's easily available or try to find a FIT that both you and most > likely many others (since they're selling well) actually want? They're not selling here. Dealers can't get them. Customers can't see them. They just don't exist. >> So, you'd rather buy a Focus that's easily available or try to find a FIT that both you and most >> likely many others (since they're selling well) actually want? > >They're not selling here. Dealers can't get them. Customers can't see them. Customers in general, or customers as in specifically you? > They just don't >exist. >> So, you'd rather buy a Focus that's easily available or try to find a FIT that both you and most >> likely many others (since they're selling well) actually want? > > They're not selling here. Dealers can't get them. Customers can't see them. They just don't > exist. They do here on Earth. >> So, you'd rather buy a Focus that's easily available or try to find a FIT that both you and most >> likely many others (since they're selling well) actually want? > >They're not selling here. Dealers can't get them. Customers can't see them. They just don't >exist. Sounds like no one is buying them because they sell out too quick. >>> So, you'd rather buy a Focus that's easily available or try to find a >>> FIT that both you and most [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Sounds like no one is buying them because they sell out too quick. Thanks, Yogi <grin> SignatureBearman If it's got tits, tires, tubes, or transistors, it's trouble. > Tried to get a look at a Honda Fit today. Local dealers don't have one so I > called a dealer 35 > miles away, they said they had one on the lot. I was there in less than an > hour and they said, "oh, > sorry, someone just drove off with it." Then they tried to push other cars > on me. Thanks a.sholes. That's not Honda dealers. That's CAR dealers. Not all Honda dealers behave like that. >> Tried to get a look at a Honda Fit today. Local dealers don't have >> one so I called a dealer 35 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Not all Honda dealers behave like that. I'd blame the SALESMAN,not the whole dealership. Perhaps you should have complained to the sales manager,maybe you would have gotten compensation of some sort. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > I'd blame the SALESMAN,not the whole dealership. > Perhaps you should have complained to the sales manager,maybe you would > have gotten compensation of some sort. Maybe. In my limited experience, the dealership management sets the tone for the sales force. -Greg >> I'd blame the SALESMAN,not the whole dealership. >> Perhaps you should have complained to the sales manager,maybe you would [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -Greg And you have to make your concerns known. They don't read minds. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net Behave like what? They have one, then it is sold. That is what they do, sell cars. If it is no longer available of course they will suggest what the have. The dealerships have ZERO control of how many they get, there are not enough to go around. >> Tried to get a look at a Honda Fit today. Local dealers don't have one >> so I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Not all Honda dealers behave like that. My dealer gets 4 about every 3-5 weeks and they don't take backorders so they sell as soon as they hit the lot. I was lucky and got mine on 6 May > Behave like what? > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> Not all Honda dealers behave like that. These vehicles are VERY much in demand. If they said it was there and then an hour elapsed and it no longer is is no surprise. Sorry, that is the way it is. > Tried to get a look at a Honda Fit today. Local dealers don't have one so > I called a dealer 35 miles away, they said they had one on the lot. I was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pressure me into buying something I don't want. Bye bye, Honda! Hello > Ford Focus! > These vehicles are VERY much in demand. If they said it was there and then an hour elapsed and it > no longer is is no surprise. > > Sorry, that is the way it is. Car salesmen LOVE people like you. >> These vehicles are VERY much in demand. If they said it was there >> and then an hour elapsed and it no longer is is no surprise. >> >> Sorry, that is the way it is. > > Car salesmen LOVE people like you. And your justatroll. > Car salesmen LOVE people like you. You certainly picked an accurate name for your participation in newsgroups. Or, did your parents know what you were going to be like and that's your real name? {;^) > Tried to get a look at a Honda Fit today. Local dealers don't have one so I called a dealer 35 > miles away, they said they had one on the lot. I was there in less than an hour and they said, "oh, > sorry, someone just drove off with it." Then they tried to push other cars on me. Thanks a.sholes. > You lie to get me to drive a long distance for nothing then try to pressure me into buying something > I don't want. Bye bye, Honda! Hello Ford Focus! If you're that impatient you deserve a Focus and all the woes that will accompany it. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >Thanks a.sholes. You lie to me then try to pressure me into buying > something I don't want. Bye bye, Honda! Hello Ford Focus! Sure: The Jap car sucks because a gaijin salesman is an a.shole? And: You're a mensch dumb enough to buy a new car rather than a well-conditioned 10yo old that drives like it's brand-new and costs nickels and dimes. (My '89 Prelude cost a thou clams, has a 6750 redline factory tach and 140mph speedo, and is only at 5000 at 100mph on 13" tires sucking 87 octane crap-gas. You go ahead and buy some new piece of sh.t with less performance, and watch it lose 15K in value in five years.) DO YOU KNOW WHAT FORD REALLY STANDS FOR ? ANSWER+ Forever On Road Dead > Tried to get a look at a Honda Fit today. Local dealers don't have one so I called a dealer 35 > miles away, they said they had one on the lot. I was there in less than an hour and they said, "oh, > sorry, someone just drove off with it." Then they tried to push other cars on me. Thanks a.sholes. > You lie to get me to drive a long distance for nothing then try to pressure me into buying something > I don't want. Bye bye, Honda! Hello Ford Focus! |
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