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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2006

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seatbelt reminder chime on 2006 accord

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guy quartarone - 26 Jul 2006 13:50 GMT
Anyone have any luck disabling the seatbelt reminder on a 2006 Accord? Can I
unplug the sensor under the seat without setting off a code?
High Tech Misfit - 26 Jul 2006 13:56 GMT
> Anyone have any luck disabling the seatbelt reminder on a 2006 Accord? Can I
> unplug the sensor under the seat without setting off a code?

Buckle up before starting the car.
TeGGeR® - 26 Jul 2006 23:09 GMT
> Anyone have any luck disabling the seatbelt reminder on a 2006 Accord?
> Can I unplug the sensor under the seat without setting off a code?

The new cars will not allow silencing the seatbelt chime the way you used
to be able to. Beeper control is part of the multifunction unit under the
dash, which uses the seat sensor as one of its inputs. Disconnecting the
sensor will not have the effect you want.

The chime is amazingly annoying when all you're doing is crawling in a
parking lot, or moving cars in the driveway. I wish they would have it kick
in only after the car reaches 15-20mph or so.

There are two realistically possible ways to shut the chime up if you need
to:
1) Go to the wreckers. Cut a buckle off a wreck's belt. Insert that into
the receptacle as needed.
2) Do up belt behind your back.

A third way (requiring some mechanical and electrical aptitude) is to
remove the multifunction unit and unsolder/snip the little beeper button,
which is the same as those used on computer motherboards. This kills ALL
chimes, including the key-in/door open warning.

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Robert - 31 Jul 2006 02:05 GMT
Ummm...here's a dumb solution...why don't you just wear your seatbelt?
This IS the purpose of the seatbelt chime.

56 percent of all automobile fatalities in 2003 could have been
prevented if the occupants of the vehicles involved in the accidents
wore their seatbelts. At least 75 percent of those occupants would have
lived.
chip - 01 Aug 2006 02:29 GMT
>Ummm...here's a dumb solution...why don't you just wear your seatbelt?
>This IS the purpose of the seatbelt chime.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>wore their seatbelts. At least 75 percent of those occupants would have
>lived.

I should be able to disable that so called feature. After all I don't
think it's  the governments right to determine if I live or die. Hell
here in florida we have seatbelt laws but you can ride a motorcycle
without a helmet!!! Same in Illinois.
                               Chip
'Curly Q. Links' - 01 Aug 2006 03:51 GMT
. . . . . here in florida we have seatbelt laws but you can ride a
motorcycle
> without a helmet!!!
>                                 Chip
-----------------------

Your state government is just trying to get rid of the dumber bikers.
:-(

Cold.

'Curly'
Ernest Cassirer - 01 Aug 2006 06:20 GMT
Not wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle doesn't injure or kill others
as could happen if you lose control of your car because you are not wearing
a seat/shoulder belt.

> >Ummm...here's a dumb solution...why don't you just wear your seatbelt?
> >This IS the purpose of the seatbelt chime.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> without a helmet!!! Same in Illinois.
>                                 Chip
Robert - 02 Aug 2006 23:08 GMT
The "government" isn't doing anything, it's not a law or mandate or
anything to have a seatbelt chime. It's just a feature from Honda to
compel buyers to drive safer.
Unquestionably Confused - 02 Aug 2006 23:23 GMT
Robert, wrote the following at or about 8/2/2006 5:08 PM:
> The "government" isn't doing anything, it's not a law or mandate or
> anything to have a seatbelt chime. It's just a feature from Honda to
> compel buyers to drive safer.

No, you're wrong.  It actually is a federal law and Honda, Toyota and
all the other manufacturer's are following it.

It's been on the books since 1974.

"Oct. 1974

Despite fact that seat belt-ignition interlocks increase seat belt use
rate to as high as 60 percent, Congress enacts legislation to prohibit
use of seat belt-ignition interlock and to limit any audible reminder
(buzzer) for seat belt use to not longer than 8 seconds in duration
after engine ignition. See 49 USC § 30124."
Seth - 03 Aug 2006 01:27 GMT
> Robert, wrote the following at or about 8/2/2006 5:08 PM:
>> The "government" isn't doing anything, it's not a law or mandate or
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> for seat belt use to not longer than 8 seconds in duration after engine
> ignition. See 49 USC § 30124."

The way I read that it is not saying that a car must have a seatbelt buzzer.
It is limiting the length of time the seatbelt buzzer can sound for.  If it
was mandated that you must have a seatbelt buzzer all the way back in 1974,
how come that is a fairly recent addition and hasn't been in all cars for
the past 30+ years.  My '01 Accord has no seatbelt buzzer.
Unquestionably Confused - 03 Aug 2006 02:13 GMT
>> Robert, wrote the following at or about 8/2/2006 5:08 PM:
>>> The "government" isn't doing anything, it's not a law or mandate or
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> how come that is a fairly recent addition and hasn't been in all cars for
> the past 30+ years.  My '01 Accord has no seatbelt buzzer.

I wasn't going to put the whole chronology for the seat belt reminders,
etc. here as I figured that most would either understand or do a little
research on their own.  Apparently I was wrong.

Here's a link that might help you with the evolution of the warning
system which was required beginning around 1972.  Yeah, surprise, it
evolved to allow chimes.

<http://www.citizen.org/documents/Chron_Belt_Minder.pdf>

As to whether or not they were required by the FEDS (they were)a bit of
common sense thought might provide a clue.  When we see lawsuits against
Ford, etc. for omitting a part that might have cost them $0.38 per unit
which resulted (at least it was argued to be so) in serious injuries in
death due to that omission in the name of profit, why would anyone think
they were putting bells, buzzers, chimes, etc. in vehicles for giggles
and grins?
Robert - 04 Aug 2006 00:01 GMT
Wow, I never knew all of those laws even existed. I just supposed since
my 2004 Volvo (supposedly the champion of safety) didn't have a
seatbelt chime that it wasn't required. I guess I'd better have it
looked at.

Either way, I don't think of seatbelt chimes as a bad thing, just a
little reminder. That's all I'm saying.
Seth - 04 Aug 2006 22:52 GMT
>>> Robert, wrote the following at or about 8/2/2006 5:08 PM:
>>>> The "government" isn't doing anything, it's not a law or mandate or
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> they were putting bells, buzzers, chimes, etc. in vehicles for giggles and
> grins?

All that to say, yeah, the law dating back to 1974 was NOT to mandate the
use of chimes like I said?

I didn't say there were no laws regarding seatbelt reminders.  I was only
challenging the supposition that there was a 1974 law requiring that cars
have chimes.
TeGGeR® - 03 Aug 2006 02:03 GMT
> The "government" isn't doing anything, it's not a law or mandate or
> anything to have a seatbelt chime.

My friend, it is COMPLETELY and WHOLLY a government thing. 100%.
Would Honda voluntarily risk pissing off its buyers with such nannyism?

> It's just a feature from Honda to
> compel buyers to drive safer.

It has been a federal requirement that the car should have an seat belt
indicator light since the 1971 model year. The chime was mandated a few
years later. The early chimes were easily defeated. Modern ones are not.

Since about 2004 (not sure here, could be 2005), it has been federally
required that the light and chime repeat continuously every twenty seconds
or so once the vehicle has moved at least once and the driver's belt has
not been done up. It does not appear that this requirement covers the
pasenger seat. Some manufacturers (Ford for instance) extend the regulatory
mandate to the passenger seat as well as the driver seat. Chrysler does not
(or did not in 2005, the last time I drove a new Chrysler product).

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