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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2006

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92 Civic 1.5 Cylinder Install

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jophus@gmail.com - 12 Aug 2006 19:53 GMT
Chilton's says to install cylinder head, piston #1 should be at top
dead center while the camshaft pulley reads "UP".  This sounds pretty
simple to me.  However, I have a friend who's a mechanic and he insists
that I remove the crankshaft pulley in order to see the timing
sprocket, which also has marks that need to be lined up correctly.  I
would be okay with that, too, if the crankshaft bolt wasn't installed
at 180 ft. lbs. of torque.  My air compressor and impact gun don't do
the trick.  I've also tried heating the bolt.  The next method I'll
employ is removing the starter to access the flywheel, which I can have
my neighbor brace with a prybar while I jump from the roof onto the
two-foot lead pipe slid onto the rachet.  Before I do this, my
questions are:

a) Is there a way to have everything lined up absolutely correctly
without having to remove the crankshaft pulley?

b) Any more suggestions on removing the crankshaft bolt?

Thanks.
jim beam - 12 Aug 2006 20:55 GMT
> Chilton's says to install cylinder head, piston #1 should be at top
> dead center while the camshaft pulley reads "UP".  This sounds pretty
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>
> Thanks.

yes, buy and use the pulley holder tool like it says in the book.  go to
tegger.com and look for details.  you may find you local dealer rents
them out.
jophus@gmail.com - 12 Aug 2006 21:33 GMT
Already been to the rental place....the 250lb. electric impact wrench
that tegger.com recommends didn't work for me.  The chilton's manual
doesn't say anything about a pulley tool.
TeGGeR® - 13 Aug 2006 00:46 GMT
> Already been to the rental place....the 250lb. electric impact wrench
> that tegger.com recommends didn't work for me.

I do not "recommend" it except as a first-try. Later on I say you may need
a 3/4" drive 600# job if lighter stuff doesn't work. Have you tried that
yet?

>  The chilton's manual
> doesn't say anything about a pulley tool.

Chilton is crap. So is Haynes. Helms all the way, baby.
www.helminc.com

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jophus@gmail.com - 13 Aug 2006 02:13 GMT
I would've tried it already if the rental places here offered one.
Home Depot has a Rigid impact wrench w/ up to 700 ft. lbs., but I'm not
quite desperate enough to throw down 200 clams for one use.  I'm
looking at used tools on Ebay now.  There's a Chicago Electric Power
impact wrench that claims a max. 400 ft. lbs. of torque.  Looks like I
can get it for around $30.

I agree that Chilton's is crap.  (1. Disconnect negative battery cable
2. Overhaul Engine)  I might also submit that, if indeed Helms is the
best manual, their marketing department needs some work--never even
heard of them.
jim beam - 13 Aug 2006 02:01 GMT
> Already been to the rental place....the 250lb. electric impact wrench
> that tegger.com recommends didn't work for me.

"you may find you local dealer rents them out."  note the word *DEALER*.
 as in your local honda honda dealer may rent the proper honda tool out.

>  The chilton's manual
> doesn't say anything about a pulley tool.

that's because it's utter carp.  the money you wasted on that lining for
a parrot's cage could have been put towards the tool rental.
Elle - 13 Aug 2006 00:29 GMT
The crankshaft pulley should have four marks on it. The
white one is TDC. Align it with the pointer on the timing
belt cover, per
http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/ConcertoManual/62sk301/5-21.pdf

Otherwise, resources on how to break free a Honda pulley
bolt:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/cranktool/index.html

http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id6.html

> Chilton's says to install cylinder head, piston #1 should
> be at top
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>
> Thanks.
chip - 15 Aug 2006 03:19 GMT
Don't pull the crank pulley, the mark on the cover is fine. line it
up with the white mark and put the head on. the belt can be tensioned
by pulling the plug out of the lower cover and accessing the bolt.
I've done a countless number of these this way. tell your mechanic
friend that the white mark on the outside is just as reliable as the
one on the inside.
                           Chip

>The crankshaft pulley should have four marks on it. The
>white one is TDC. Align it with the pointer on the timing
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>>
>> Thanks.
jim beam - 15 Aug 2006 03:34 GMT
>    Don't pull the crank pulley, the mark on the cover is fine. line it
> up with the white mark and put the head on. the belt can be tensioned
> by pulling the plug out of the lower cover and accessing the bolt.
> I've done a countless number of these this way.

that's the way it's /supposed/ to be done!

> tell your mechanic
> friend that the white mark on the outside is just as reliable as the
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>>>
>>> Thanks.
 
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