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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2006

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Silly unimportant question about oil

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High Tech Misfit - 21 Aug 2006 04:33 GMT
I have been carrying a container of oil in the trunk of my car for a few
years now.  I don't do my own oil changes, and I have the container on hand
in the event that the oil gets a bit low in between oil changes (which has
not happened since I replaced the PCV valve 5 years ago).

Anyway, there is no expiry date on this container and I wanted to know if
the oil would still be good to use at this point.  I ask because it has been
in the trunk the whole time, including during some extremely cold winters.
jim beam - 21 Aug 2006 04:56 GMT
> I have been carrying a container of oil in the trunk of my car for a few
> years now.  I don't do my own oil changes, and I have the container on hand
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the oil would still be good to use at this point.  I ask because it has been
> in the trunk the whole time, including during some extremely cold winters.

it can gum up over time and who knows what's going on with the additive
package.  but maybe it's ok.  it's got to have a reasonable shelf life
for the store and a storage life for the consumer...
Matt Ion - 21 Aug 2006 05:22 GMT
> I have been carrying a container of oil in the trunk of my car for a few
> years now.  I don't do my own oil changes, and I have the container on hand
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the oil would still be good to use at this point.  I ask because it has been
> in the trunk the whole time, including during some extremely cold winters.

It survived several million years underground before they put it in that bottle...
Eric - 21 Aug 2006 10:34 GMT
> I have been carrying a container of oil in the trunk of my car for a few
> years now.  I don't do my own oil changes, and I have the container on
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> been in the trunk the whole time, including during some extremely cold
> winters.

I tend to buy oil by the case when it goes on sale.  As such, two or three
cases can sit around for a while in my garage before they are used.  I have
noticed on occasion that there's a small quantity of a light brown sediment
that forms in the bottom of the plastic oil bottle.  I tried asking a few
questions about this phenomena but never received a satisfactory answer.
For what it's worth, I just shake up the bottles before I start doing the
oil change such that most of the air bubbles in the oil have dispelled
before it's poured into the engine.  So to answer your question, yes, the
oil can change over time but not being an API chemist I can't tell you the
significance of it.  I will try asking some more knowledgable folks that I
know the next time I see them.

Eric
TeGGeR® - 21 Aug 2006 13:42 GMT
> I have been carrying a container of oil in the trunk of my car for a
> few years now.  I don't do my own oil changes, and I have the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> has been in the trunk the whole time, including during some extremely
> cold winters.

It's fine. The oil undergoes far greater stress, breakdown and
contamination in your engine.

What grade is it? I mean the API specification (SJ, SL, etc.). Look on the
back of the label. Not that it matters much; I'm just curious.

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High Tech Misfit - 21 Aug 2006 15:12 GMT
> It's fine. The oil undergoes far greater stress, breakdown and
> contamination in your engine.
>
> What grade is it? I mean the API specification (SJ, SL, etc.). Look on the
> back of the label. Not that it matters much; I'm just curious.

It's Castrol GTX 5W-30, API spec. is SJ.

Thanks to all who responded.
butch burton - 21 Aug 2006 17:05 GMT
Once ran into a large display of Castrol GTX mis priced - bought 6
cases of the stuff - took me several years to use it all - noticed the
same small stream of sediment in the bottom of each plastic bottle
after a couple of years.

Only other deal I got on oil was back in the days when oil was in metal
cans and 24 to the case - the check out clerk thought there were 12 per
case.  Didn't work when I went back for 2 more cases.
.
Timothy J. Lee - 21 Aug 2006 17:47 GMT
>> It's fine. The oil undergoes far greater stress, breakdown and
>> contamination in your engine.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>It's Castrol GTX 5W-30, API spec. is SJ.

Means it is a few years old.  If you get a newer car, be sure that your
spare oil is up to spec for the newer car (i.e. if it requires API SL or
SM, the API SJ rated oil may not be suitable for it).

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High Tech Misfit - 21 Aug 2006 18:33 GMT
>>It's Castrol GTX 5W-30, API spec. is SJ.
>
> Means it is a few years old.  If you get a newer car, be sure that your
> spare oil is up to spec for the newer car (i.e. if it requires API SL or
> SM, the API SJ rated oil may not be suitable for it).

I appreciate that advice, especially considering that I may be in the market
for a newer car possibly next year.  My Accord has been great, but it does
not have A/C.  And given how extremely hot it has been at times the last
couple of summers here, it's at the point where I feel I need A/C. :-)
Matt Ion - 22 Aug 2006 02:20 GMT
>>>It's Castrol GTX 5W-30, API spec. is SJ.
>>
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> not have A/C.  And given how extremely hot it has been at times the last
> couple of summers here, it's at the point where I feel I need A/C. :-)

You realize that as soon as you buy a new car with A/C, it will snow all the
next summer? ;)
TeGGeR® - 22 Aug 2006 02:32 GMT
>>>>It's Castrol GTX 5W-30, API spec. is SJ.
>>>
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> You realize that as soon as you buy a new car with A/C, it will snow
> all the next summer? ;)

And if you buy a brand-new snowmobile, it won't snow all winter.

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Grumpy AuContraire - 22 Aug 2006 03:07 GMT
> >>>>It's Castrol GTX 5W-30, API spec. is SJ.
> >>>
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>
> And if you buy a brand-new snowmobile, it won't snow all winter.

During the Blizzard of '78 in southeastern New England where average
snowfalls average nearly 40 inches, pickups with snowplows became a very
hot item.  We didn't get squat for snowfall for the next several years...

JT

(I know that Marcus Murphy is alive and well somewhere..)
stevie - 23 Aug 2006 14:39 GMT
in Texas, they no longer require windshield wipers on new cars.
Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
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> High Tech Misfit wrote:
>> Timothy J. Lee wrote:
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> You realize that as soon as you buy a new car with A/C, it will snow
> all the next summer? ;)

And if you buy a brand-new snowmobile, it won't snow all winter.

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Chief_Billy@hotmail.com - 21 Aug 2006 20:19 GMT
> I have been carrying a container of oil in the trunk of my car for a few
> years now.  I don't do my own oil changes, and I have the container on hand
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the oil would still be good to use at this point.  I ask because it has been
> in the trunk the whole time, including during some extremely cold winters.

If sealed, it *should* be OK. Pour it out into another container, and
look at it. IF it looks
clean and like normal oil should, use it. You'll be OK.
dbltap - 21 Aug 2006 23:30 GMT
>I have been carrying a container of oil in the trunk of my car for a few
> years now.  I don't do my own oil changes, and I have the container on
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> been
> in the trunk the whole time, including during some extremely cold winters.

Jeez, you worry about a $2 quart of oil ?
Throw it out and buy a fresh quart.
 
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