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Car Forum / Honda Cars / September 2006

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I'm going to cancel the Fit

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dgk - 20 Sep 2006 01:25 GMT
It's now over two months since I ordered it and I just can't stay in
limbo any longer. I gave the guy a week to get an Orange one and if he
can't then we just cancel it and I put some more money into my 91
Accord. Maybe next year it will be cheaper and easier to get.

I saw one advertised by a fairly local dealer (20 miles away), orange,
used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
one. That's just too much.
Matt Ion - 20 Sep 2006 04:33 GMT
> It's now over two months since I ordered it and I just can't stay in
> limbo any longer. I gave the guy a week to get an Orange one and if he
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> used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
> one. That's just too much.

Did you try negotiating a lower price with that dealer?  Tell them what price
your dealer gave you for a new one?
Brian Smith - 20 Sep 2006 09:15 GMT
> It's now over two months since I ordered it and I just can't stay in
> limbo any longer. I gave the guy a week to get an Orange one and if he
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> used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
> one. That's just too much.

   With 100 miles on it, it is still a new vehicle. It's obviously been
test driven. Not a big deal.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 20 Sep 2006 10:44 GMT
> > I saw one advertised by a fairly local dealer (20 miles away), orange,
> > used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
> > one. That's just too much.
>
>     With 100 miles on it, it is still a new vehicle. It's obviously been
> test driven. Not a big deal.

Wait a minute here.  "New" and "used" are legal terms.

If it's never been titled, it's new.  If it's been titled, it's used.

That's it.

Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).
dgk - 20 Sep 2006 12:51 GMT
>> > I saw one advertised by a fairly local dealer (20 miles away), orange,
>> > used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
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>Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
>5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).

I was wondering about that. It was clearly stated as "used" and I was
a bit nervous about that. Why would someone return a vehicle after 100
miles? Maybe they discovered that there isn't a bike rack that will
fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!

I also didn't want to end up in a contractual situation of buying a
car while under contract with another dealer so I just let it go by.
jim beam - 20 Sep 2006 15:29 GMT
>>>> I saw one advertised by a fairly local dealer (20 miles away), orange,
>>>> used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
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> fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
> trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!

have you ever been to europe?  over there, cars with a good deal less
power than that tow trailers all the time - maybe not 5 ton boat
trailers, but still useful capacities.  they have to change gears on
grades, but they still manage it ok.  look at horse power per pound and
compare to a big rig.

> I also didn't want to end up in a contractual situation of buying a
> car while under contract with another dealer so I just let it go by.
JQO - 20 Sep 2006 16:21 GMT
> >>>> I saw one advertised by a fairly local dealer (20 miles away), orange,
> >>>> used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
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> > I also didn't want to end up in a contractual situation of buying a
> > car while under contract with another dealer so I just let it go by.

Torque is also the bigger factor for towing. It's what gives whatever
you're towing the intitial push, then HP keeps it moving along.
Body Roll - 20 Sep 2006 16:34 GMT
> > fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
> > trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!

It's most likely for a bike rack. Kudos to Honda.

> have you ever been to europe?  over there, cars with a good deal less
> power than that tow trailers all the time - maybe not 5 ton boat

Well, you're forgetting that in Europe 99% of the drivers don't mind
shifting the
gears themselves. I don't see why would anyone want a 109hp car with an
automatic.
CVT is not offered on Fit or is it?
dgk - 21 Sep 2006 13:25 GMT
>> > fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
>> > trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!
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>automatic.
>CVT is not offered on Fit or is it?

I'm confused on that. My understanding when I started looking at the
Fit was that it had CVT.
Howard - 22 Sep 2006 02:51 GMT
No CVT!
Automatic or 5 speed only.

>>> > fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
>>> > trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!
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> I'm confused on that. My understanding when I started looking at the
> Fit was that it had CVT.
Ike - 22 Sep 2006 04:13 GMT
> No CVT!
> Automatic or 5 speed only.

The auto trans appears to be 5-speed... is that correct?
DAB - 23 Sep 2006 11:05 GMT
>> No CVT!
>> Automatic or 5 speed only.
>
> The auto trans appears to be 5-speed... is that correct?

Yes
jim beam - 22 Sep 2006 06:22 GMT
> No CVT!
> Automatic or 5 speed only.

if this review of the honda jazz is anything to go by, the automatic
/is/ a cvt.

http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/cars/honda-jazz-1-4/1027685/
Brian Smith - 20 Sep 2006 22:02 GMT
> Wait a minute here.  "New" and "used" are legal terms.

   That's true.

> If it's never been titled, it's new.  If it's been titled, it's used.

   Also true. I just don't consider that a vehicle on the lot with 100
miles on it to be a returned previously purchased vehicle. I took the term
'used' to be a phrase the OP used to describe the vehicle with 100 miles on
its clock.

> That's it.
>
> Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
> 5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).

   Also possible.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 20 Sep 2006 22:09 GMT
> > If it's never been titled, it's new.  If it's been titled, it's used.
>
>     Also true. I just don't consider that a vehicle on the lot with 100
> miles on it to be a returned previously purchased vehicle.

If a salesman tells me "used," that connotates something very specific
and factors greatly in the price I'm willing to pay.
Brian Smith - 21 Sep 2006 09:13 GMT
> If a salesman tells me "used," that connotates something very specific
> and factors greatly in the price I'm willing to pay.

   That's true, too.
 
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