> Update... I got it up enuff to clear the studs, etc..
> I ended up taking off about half the vac lines to the
> metal line vac contraption, so it would move up and back
> along with the carb..
Yes, that's the usual way. Just gently bend the metal lines out of the way
and take the carb up and off complete.
> I noticed that there seems to be no real gasket between
> the efe heater block, and the carb.. I was thinking there
> was one there.. Maybe not..
There's a specially shaped o-ring. See http://tinyurl.com/pfdsu.
> Anyway, the efe heater block
> looked ok with no cracks, etc, so in theory I would think
> it was ok. It got dark on me, but it looked like there might
> be a gasket under the efe heater.
Yes, there's a gasket. See the above link.
> I tried pulling it up off the studs, but it seemed to be stuck.
Pry it up very gently without causing damage to either the block or the
manifold surface.
> I didn't bother with it any more yet.. I'll do that tomorrow. I'd like
> to change the lower gasket if it has one.
There's a gasket. It should be changed. Be careful removing the gasket as
you don't want to scratch the manifold mating surface.
> The screws holding the lower part of the carb to the middle lower
> part seemed tight, but I guess the gaskets could be going maybe..
> Actually, I don't think it's really leaking that much from the
> middle gaskets.. It seemed more like the base when I
> was spraying around..
Leave the carb alone if it's running all right, except for one thing... if
your car has an metal plug installed over the idle mixture mixture screw
then now IS the time to remove it if you haven't already.
> I notice one thing reading the manual about the EFE heater.
> It says when installing to make sure the "O-ring and seal"
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> more when I get after it again tomorrow.
> MK
Eric
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nm5k@wt.net - 28 Sep 2006 17:01 GMT
> > I noticed that there seems to be no real gasket between
> > the efe heater block, and the carb.. I was thinking there
> > was one there.. Maybe not..
>
> There's a specially shaped o-ring. See http://tinyurl.com/pfdsu.
Hummmm. I'll look into that. I notice that the online auto parts
lists an o ring and also a regular gasket.
> > Anyway, the efe heater block
> > looked ok with no cracks, etc, so in theory I would think
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> your car has an metal plug installed over the idle mixture mixture screw
> then now IS the time to remove it if you haven't already.
Yep, I was gonna do that. The car ran pretty well before this. Idle was
fairly smooth, etc.. But I did notice some lean misfires at highway
speeds. I was going over the emissions gear, and the O2 was telling me
it was really lean. Pretty much at the end of the scale. "IE: .05 to .1
v range
when fully hot. " So I decided I better fix it.. Not only to protect
the engine,
but I was worried the real lean running would kill me on my NOX score.
Also, I can't tell if the computer and emission gear is actually
working
until I can get it slightly rich so it will kick into action.. I'm
gonna pull
the plug just to be on the safe side. It's possible I might have to
richen it
up a tad if the throttle shafts, or whatever are leaking a bit.. But
I'm gonna
leave that as a last resort and see if I can get it normal just by
fixing the
air leaks first.
I was talking to a friend of mine last night who was once a honda
dealer
mechanic in a past life, and he said he's seen some of those EFE
insulators
leaking internally. He also said they can crack sometimes, and it's
real
hard to see them. I guess I'll just put it all back together with as
many fresh
gaskets as I can easily install and see what happens. I didn't think to
check
my manifold/head gaskets before I did this, so it's possible they could
be
leaking a little. I'll do that once it get it going again..
Thanks fer the info..
MK
nm5k@wt.net - 28 Sep 2006 17:11 GMT
BTW, I just went out and double checked for the O ring..
It does seem to be there, but it's so flat and squashed down
it's fairly useless to seal the connection. In the semi dark
last night, I thought it was actually part of the insulator cuz
it's so smooth and level with the insulator surface. Sooo...
That probably a lot of the problem. I'll change both that ring,
and the lower gasket..
MK