I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
availability of manual transmissions:
Why is there a seemingly overwhelming preference for automatic
transmissions? Is it that people don't want to be bothered with
manuals, don't want to learn how to drive them, or for some other
reason? I personally think manuals are more fun and offer more control
of the vehicle, but that's just one man's opinion.
I don't mean this question to be condescending in any way--I'm just
genuinely curious.
Thanks in advance for your responses.
Larry in AZ - 01 Dec 2006 20:30 GMT
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> Why is there a seemingly overwhelming preference for automatic
> transmissions? Is it that people don't want to be bothered with
> manuals, don't want to learn how to drive them, or for some other
> reason?
All of the above...

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S.Crab - 01 Dec 2006 20:51 GMT
Nevermind. This is essentially a redundant post.
http://cartalk.com/board/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=317780&an=0&page=0
> I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
> availability of manual transmissions:
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> Thanks in advance for your responses.
Tegger - 01 Dec 2006 22:34 GMT
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> I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
> availability of manual transmissions:
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>
> Thanks in advance for your responses.
Most people in North America don't want to fight with a gearshift and
clutch, especially women. And since there's nothing stopping them from
buying slushboxes, they do.
In some other parts of the world manuals are still significant. Probably
has to do with pecuniary penalties for buying an automatic. Governments
love that sort of thing. It's a "luxury tax", y'know.

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Brian Smith - 01 Dec 2006 22:47 GMT
>I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
> availability of manual transmissions:
>
> Why is there a seemingly overwhelming preference for automatic
> transmissions? Is it that people don't want to be bothered with
> manuals,
I have driven manual transmission equipped vehicles for many decades, I
prefer automatics at this stage of my life.
> don't want to learn how to drive them,
There is nothing complicated about driving a manual transmission
equipped vehicle. If a person can walk and chew gum at the same time it's
not a big deal. Wait! There's the problem. {;^)
> or for some other
> reason?
In city traffic it is much easier to go with the flow with an automatic
transmision than a manual transmission (all the stop and crawl).
> I personally think manuals are more fun and offer more control
> of the vehicle, but that's just one man's opinion.
They do for some instances, but overall it's easier to drive an
automatic transmission equipped vehicle.
> I don't mean this question to be condescending in any way--I'm just
> genuinely curious.
You can only find out answers, when you ask questions.
> Thanks in advance for your responses.
No problem.
Matt Ion - 02 Dec 2006 01:32 GMT
> There is nothing complicated about driving a manual transmission
> equipped vehicle. If a person can walk and chew gum at the same time it's
> not a big deal. Wait! There's the problem. {;^)
>
> In city traffic it is much easier to go with the flow with an automatic
> transmision than a manual transmission (all the stop and crawl).
I love my MT car, but for a work vehicle, I prefer an automatic, because I do
have to spend a lot of time in traffic, and the clutch leg gets rather tired
before long.
jim beam - 01 Dec 2006 22:50 GMT
> I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
> availability of manual transmissions:
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>
> Thanks in advance for your responses.
because modern autos are faster and more economical. there's also a
safety argument - both hands on the wheel at all times as well as the
ability to program the shift pattern to better cope with emergency
situations. go drive a modern auto - they're quite effective!
Jim Yanik - 02 Dec 2006 02:41 GMT
>> I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
>> availability of manual transmissions:
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> because modern autos are faster and more economical. there's also a
> safety argument - both hands on the wheel at all times
As if most automatic drivers really use BOTH hands on the wheel...;more
likely they use the other hand to hold a cellphone,cigarette,food,or dangle
the spare hand out the window,or rest it on the passenger seatback.
> as well as the
> ability to program the shift pattern to better cope with emergency
> situations. go drive a modern auto - they're quite effective!
And enable "unintended accelleration" accidents.

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Bucky - 01 Dec 2006 23:30 GMT
> Why is there a seemingly overwhelming preference for automatic
> transmissions?
Same reason why most people take the elevator instead of stairs:
easier, more convenient. And who has a third hand when one's got the
cell phone, the other's got a coffee, and the knee's steering the car?
=)
Me? I prefer to take the stairs, and I also prefer manuals for the fun
of it.
Craig - 01 Dec 2006 23:59 GMT
One main reason I can think of, is the massive amount of traffic in
most urban areas. It can be a pain creeping along for 10 or miles in
1st or 2nd gear.
But I will only drive an automatic if I have no choice. Both my wife
and I prefer manual.
We were looking for a new car for her recently and wanted to look at
teh BMW 3 series, but none of the dealers in Orange County had a manual
version for us to test drive. So we went back to Saab.

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> I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
> availability of manual transmissions:
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>
> Thanks in advance for your responses.
Joe LaVigne - 02 Dec 2006 05:45 GMT
> One main reason I can think of, is the massive amount of traffic in
> most urban areas. It can be a pain creeping along for 10 or miles in
> 1st or 2nd gear.
This is a big one to me...
I own a MT, and I love it around here (Buffalo, NY). I work at night, and
even in the day, rarely encounter horrible traffic. But, recently, I had
to go to Toronto. Coming home, I was stuck in about 60 miles of rush-hour
stop and go traffic, and man did I wish I'd had an Auto for that
trip.
Seeing as how I live in Buffalo, I'll probably continue to buy MT's, but
when I have to go to a really massive city in the future, I'll rent a car...
Dave Garrett - 02 Dec 2006 03:34 GMT
> Why is there a seemingly overwhelming preference for automatic
> transmissions? Is it that people don't want to be bothered with
> manuals, don't want to learn how to drive them, or for some other
> reason? I personally think manuals are more fun and offer more control
> of the vehicle, but that's just one man's opinion.
I prefer manuals too, but automatics have gotten a lot better in recent
years than they used to be. An interesting trend in high-end exotic cars
like Ferraris and Lamborghinis is that more buyers now seem to be opting
for the F1-style "paddle shifter" transmissions than manuals - granted,
these really aren't automatics in the true sense of the term, but it's a
telling development that probably foreshadows even less interest in
manuals once the technology begins to trickle down to more affordable
cars.
AutoWeek recently tested the new Porsche 911 Turbo, and the Tiptronic-
equipped model was faster than the manual from 0-60.
Dave
JXStern - 02 Dec 2006 03:48 GMT
Acura TSX gets better mileage ratings with the auto.
It's an American tradition since, oh, 1950s.
In twenty years you'll be lucky if the cars have manual steering or
brakes, or if they do, you'll have to have an "expert's license" to
use them.
J.
>I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
>availability of manual transmissions:
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>
>Thanks in advance for your responses.
Michael Pardee - 02 Dec 2006 14:05 GMT
>I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
> availability of manual transmissions:
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>
> Thanks in advance for your responses.
I'm mostly an MT guy, but at the moment the only manual in my life is in my
work truck. Our department heavily favors manuals because they are less
likely to strand the driver in the wilderness (we go some places where a tow
truck couldn't retrieve the truck). In extremis we can cut a hole through
the bell housing, drill a hole through the pressure plate and clutch disk,
and put a bolt in the clutch.
I dislike manuals in town, though, and they can be trickier than automatics
on slippery roads. I've never seen a snow cat with a manual tranny; momentum
is too critical. Sometimes that is true for cars in ice and slush as well.
Two of our cars at home now have no transmissions - they are Toyota hybrids.
Mike
L Alpert - 02 Dec 2006 17:54 GMT
> I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
> availability of manual transmissions:
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>
> Thanks in advance for your responses.
Try commuting the bottlenecked traffic in CA. Stop and go freeway traffic
for 3 hours a day is enough to make anyone with a manual tranny curse the
day they bought it.
Stewart DIBBS - 02 Dec 2006 18:15 GMT
>I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
> availability of manual transmissions:
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> reason? I personally think manuals are more fun and offer more control
> of the vehicle, but that's just one man's opinion.
Yes, all of the above. Add that most cars end on the scrap heap once the
warranty has run out and the auto box fails, because of the cost or repair.
I haven't bought a new car in years, and prefer manuals, because thay can
make all sorts of bad noises and sound like a gravel crusher, and still
work. Automatics are fine when new and have a manufacturer's warranty, but
when anything goes wrong you usually end up stuck on the side of the road,
and at the financial mercy of the "rebuilders".
SD
Robert - 03 Dec 2006 03:04 GMT
Personally, I would prefer an automatic as a daily driver...heading to
work in the mornings I'm so tired I can barely remember the right
roads, let alone have to shift. But on the weekends, as a sort of
sporty car, I would definitely prefer a manual. That's why I have a
manumatic...it is truely the best transmission option I have ever
driven; it's like the best of both worlds.