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Car Forum / Honda Cars / December 2006

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Tips To Get Better Gas Mileage/Performance!

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Blazer - 01 Jan 2002 05:00 GMT
Hi, I added a reformulator to my oil crankcase and gas tank and got better Performance and an INCREASE in gas mileage. It works on just about any combustible engine. It works on cars, boats, generators etc. I even use it in my lawn mower, lol. This stuff works. I put 1 ounce per 10 gallons of gasoline in my car and 1 ounce per every quart of oil my crankcase takes. Of course you have to adjust it to put it in smaller engines like in snowmobiles, motorcycles, generators etc.
You won't get maximun results on your first time you use it, but the more you keep using it, the better the gas mileage. Anything to help with the High Gasoline Prices now days.  Here is the link where you can get the fuel reformulator. I hope it helps.

http://www.gasclubusa.net/go/reyesfc/retail.htm

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Edward W. Thompson - 03 Dec 2006 06:29 GMT
>Hi, I added a reformulator to my oil crankcase and gas tank and got better Performance and an INCREASE in gas mileage. It works on just about any combustible engine. It works on cars, boats, generators etc. I even use it in my lawn mower, lol. This stuff works. I put 1 ounce per 10 gallons of gasoline in my car and 1 ounce per every quart of oil my crankcase takes. Of course you have to adjust it to put it in smaller engines like in snowmobiles, motorcycles, generators etc.
>You won't get maximun results on your first time you use it, but the more you keep using it, the better the gas mileage. Anything to help with the High Gasoline Prices now days.  Here is the link where you can get the fuel reformulator. I hope it helps.
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Anyone want to buy Brooklyn Bridge?  Anymore snake oil for sale?
nm5k@wt.net - 03 Dec 2006 20:21 GMT
> Anyone want to buy Brooklyn Bridge?  Anymore snake oil for sale?

He's probably buying up cans of acetone at home depot, rebottled at 18x
normal price, and has gone into the automotive snake bit biz.. LOL...
MK
Double Tap - 03 Dec 2006 21:42 GMT
Just try this. Much less expensive but a pain the as*
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

>> Anyone want to buy Brooklyn Bridge?  Anymore snake oil for sale?
>
> He's probably buying up cans of acetone at home depot, rebottled at 18x
> normal price, and has gone into the automotive snake bit biz.. LOL...
> MK
Michael Pardee - 03 Dec 2006 23:18 GMT
> Just try this. Much less expensive but a pain the as*
> http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

I still won't risk putting unapproved solvents in my tank - the potential
costs are far too high. But mostly I am concerned that nobody has seen fit
to market acetone as a gasoline additive (one bottle treats a whole tank for
one thin dollar!) There is enormous money to be made but nobody seems to
want to go out on that limb. I wonder why.

Mike
Eric - 04 Dec 2006 04:39 GMT
> ... but nobody seems to want to go out on that limb. I wonder why.

Probably because these two paragraphs, upon which the justification to use
acetone rely on, were written by someone who has little understanding of
chemistry.

> Surface tension presents an obstacle to vaporization. For instance the
> energy barrier from surface tension can sometimes force water to reach
> 300 degrees Fahrenheit before it vaporizes. Similarly with gasoline.

Water will reach 300 °F before vaporization under pressure.  However, is the
gasoline under pressure once it's been released by the fuel injector?  No.
In addition, the surface tension of gasoline is remarkably low compared to
water.  Just try floating a sewing pin on gasoline.  Now try it again with a
second clean pin on water.  Gasoline is mostly a non-polar fluid, thus it
has extraordinarily few hydrogen bonds in it compared to water which are
responsible for creating water's surface tension.  Moreover, water will
vaporize quite nicely even at room temperature.  Just put a mL of water in
an open dish on a sensitive balance, one measuring in grams to at least 4 or
5 decimal places.  The balance will never equilibrate due to the continuous
loss of water to the vapor phase.  For each mg lost, a µL of water has been
lost to the vapor state right before our eyes.  Now for comparison, put the
water in a small enclosed container.  The container will "lose" weight for a
short period of time but then quickly stop as the air in the container
becomes saturated and the number of water molecules leaving the bulk water
for the vapor phase reaches equilibrium with the number of water molecules
in the vapor phase returning to the bulk liquid water.  For fun, repeat the
experiment with gasoline.  What you'll find it that the gasoline "loses"
weight more quickly.  That's due to it's higher vapor pressure.  A higher
vapor pressure means that it's easier for gasoline molecules to enter the
vapor phase.  Why?  There's far fewer polar bonds thus there's much less
hydrogen bonding holding the gasoline molecules in the liquid phase.  The
hydrocarbon molecules in gasoline are held in the liquid phase primarily by
london forces due to the instantaneous polarizability of the electron
clouds.  London forces are considerably weaker than the hydrogen bonds found
in polar molecules.  Thus, we've just demonstrated that gasoline will
vaporize much more easily than water and is indeed quite dissimilar with
respect to surface tension contrary to the claims made in the article.  Now,
if someone with a sensitive balance has some time on their hands, then it
would be fun to test the article's hypothesis that a small amount of acetone
will noticeably raise the vapor pressure of gasoline.  Any volunteers?  

> Acetone drastically reduces the surface tension. Most fuel molecules are
> sluggish with respect to their natural frequency.  Acetone has an
> inherent molecular vibration that "stirs up" the fuel molecules, to break
> the surface tension.

Natural frequency?  Inherent molecular vibration?  Every molecular bond will
have stretching and bending frequencies which are unique to a particular
type of bond, including the molecular bonds found in both gasoline as well
as acetone.  Lower the temperature and these will decrease.  At 0 °K they're
all gone!  Maybe they would suggest preheating the gasoline?  That would
certainly increase it's "inherent molecular vibration".  I'm curious how
they determined that the bonds are "sluggish".  Wishful thinking perhaps?

> How Much to Use
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> liter or one ounce per 10 gallons. Not more than three oz. per
> 10 gallons.

The author isn't very good at math either!  For example, 1 part in 3000 is
0.033% while 1 part in 5000 is 0.02%.  Moreover, 3 oz. per 10 gallons is
0.23%.

Overall, the article is entertaining to read but probably not useful for
much else.

Eric
Gordon McGrew - 03 Dec 2006 17:13 GMT
>Hi, I added a reformulator to my oil crankcase and gas tank and got better Performance and an INCREASE in gas mileage. It works on just about any combustible engine.

Combustible engines don't work very well to begin with.  Better to mix
fire-extinguisher foam with the fuel for longer engine life.  

> It works on cars, boats, generators etc. I even use it in my lawn mower, lol. This stuff works. I put 1 ounce per 10 gallons of gasoline in my car and 1 ounce per every quart of oil my crankcase takes. Of course you have to adjust it to put it in smaller engines like in snowmobiles, motorcycles, generators etc.
>You won't get maximun results on your first time you use it, but the more you keep using it, the better the gas mileage. Anything to help with the High Gasoline Prices now days.  Here is the link where you can get the fuel reformulator. I hope it helps.

As for this sh.t, I wouldn't put it in a 1973 Vega.
 
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