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Car Forum / Honda Cars / December 2006

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wp51dos - 11 Dec 2006 12:57 GMT
98 Civic DX.  I want to check timing belt.  Car has 60,000 miles.  I
checked online repair manual.  Looks like I need to remove valve cover
first then upper timing belt cover.  Is this correct ? Thank you
Gary - 11 Dec 2006 13:46 GMT
Needs replaced for the time factor, no matter how it looks

> 98 Civic DX.  I want to check timing belt.  Car has 60,000 miles.  I
> checked online repair manual.  Looks like I need to remove valve cover
> first then upper timing belt cover.  Is this correct ? Thank you
Dano58 - 11 Dec 2006 16:44 GMT
> 98 Civic DX.  I want to check timing belt.  Car has 60,000 miles.  I
> checked online repair manual.  Looks like I need to remove valve cover
> first then upper timing belt cover.  Is this correct ? Thank you

Yeah, you won't be able to tell anything by looking. Maybe if you
totally removed it, then you see whether it had cracks or any of the
teeth were worn - but then you'd have most of the work done to just
replace it! Not sure about the Honda recommendations but 60k - 80k is
the usual replacement period.

Dan D
'07 Odyssey
Central NJ USA
Tegger - 11 Dec 2006 18:27 GMT
"wp51dos" <wp51dos@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1165841871.393694.269560
@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

> 98 Civic DX.  I want to check timing belt.  Car has 60,000 miles.  I
> checked online repair manual.  Looks like I need to remove valve cover
> first then upper timing belt cover.  Is this correct ? Thank you

7 years or 105K miles.

You're past due for a belt change, period.

A visual inspection will tell you absolutely zero. The car will run just
perfect, right up to the moment the belt snaps and the valves get
destroyed.

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Michael Pardee - 12 Dec 2006 00:54 GMT
> 98 Civic DX.  I want to check timing belt.  Car has 60,000 miles.  I
> checked online repair manual.  Looks like I need to remove valve cover
> first then upper timing belt cover.  Is this correct ? Thank you

What TeGGeR says - the belt must be replaced. It will probably look fine but
it is not to be trusted with the life of your engine. There is no reliable
visual indication of timing belt condition.

Mike
Speedy Pete - 15 Dec 2006 03:34 GMT
Just to echo that you cant always see if it needs checking- One car that
when I looked at the belt, it looked ok. Then I took it off anyway. I
found the "teeth" on the inside edge were GONE!

-Pete

>> 98 Civic DX.  I want to check timing belt.  Car has 60,000 miles.  I
>> checked online repair manual.  Looks like I need to remove valve cover
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>
> Mike
Michael Pardee - 15 Dec 2006 12:41 GMT
> Just to echo that you cant always see if it needs checking- One car that
> when I looked at the belt, it looked ok. Then I took it off anyway. I
> found the "teeth" on the inside edge were GONE!
>
> -Pete

Yow! I changed a timing belt in a Volvo once (way overdue, but a
non-interference engine) and although it looked okay the teeth could be
picked off the belt with my thumbnail. I've personally never seen a broken
timing belt, but I've seen belts fail because teeth were missing. Every one
looked okay otherwise.

Mike
Erik - 15 Dec 2006 18:32 GMT
> > Just to echo that you cant always see if it needs checking- One car that
> > when I looked at the belt, it looked ok. Then I took it off anyway. I
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>
> Mike

Missing teeth is the normal failure mode... even though people most
often say 'broken belt'

Erik
wp51dos - 30 Dec 2006 22:39 GMT
thanks for input.

I pulled cover anyway and checked belt as thorughly as I could
including trying to pick teeth off of it.

I don't have access to impact wrench so I will wait with crossed
fingers until seals etc leak, then tackle job using old time tools.

Who knows car might be sold or stolen before then.
Tegger - 31 Dec 2006 01:46 GMT
"wp51dos" <wp51dos@gmail.com> wrote in news:1167518352.750613.280120@
48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com:

> thanks for input.
>
> I pulled cover anyway and checked belt as thorughly as I could
> including trying to pick teeth off of it.

Silly boy. Can't tell ANYthing that way.

> I don't have access to impact wrench so I will wait with crossed
> fingers until seals etc leak, then tackle job using old time tools.

That's not smart.

> Who knows car might be sold or stolen before then.

Hopefully before the belt snaps.

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Michael Pardee - 31 Dec 2006 14:27 GMT
It all takes us back to the question that won't go away: if the OP doesn't
change the belt now, when will he do it? Waiting for the seals leak is
certain to be too long since they should never leak. This car is too young
to die of that sort of considered neglect and should be worth about 20 times
the cost of having a shop change the timing belt.

wp51dos - I see nobody has said so directly in this thread, but you do
realize a failed timing belt is likely to do several thousand dollars
damage, yes?

Mike

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