Theft Deterrent System Won’t Activate

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skipdogchip - 13 Dec 2006 02:25 GMT

My keyless entry remote locks and unlocks the doors and trunk, even
the panic button works...however, when I press the lock button twice
the theft deterrent system will not activate. It was working fine up
until yesterday. Any suggestions and help would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Skipdogchip

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Tegger - 13 Dec 2006 04:04 GMT

skipdogchip <none@000.com> wrote in news:950319_
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> My keyless entry remote locks and unlocks the doors and trunk, even
> the panic button works...however, when I press the lock button twice
> the theft deterrent system will not activate. It was working fine up
> until yesterday. Any suggestions and help would be greatly
> appreciated.

It probably thinks the hood or trunk is still open. Check the switches at
those locations.

If you've recently bought the car used, be aware the previous owner may
have disabled the alarm system to prevent it from going off all the time.
This is done by disabling the hood switch.

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skipdogchip - 13 Dec 2006 06:25 GMT

Tegger,
Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I did purchase the vehicle used. It
is a 2000 Accord EX. The car did not come with a remote key fob even
though the car had this option installed. I purchased the remote from
my local Honda dealer and they programmed it for me. Everything
worked great for about a week. Now, all of a sudden, the theft system
won’t arm when I press the remote lock button twice...once to lock the
doors and the second time to arm the system. Any further thoughts?
Thanks again,
Skipdogchi

> skipdogchip <none@000.com> wrote in news:950319_
> 4704b0ceac4d17ea717651cbf0cc0365@autoboardz.com:
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> all the time.
> This is done by disabling the hood switch.

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Tegger - 13 Dec 2006 23:43 GMT

skipdogchip <none@000.com> wrote in news:950484
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> Tegger,
> Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I did purchase the vehicle used. It
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> doors and the second time to arm the system. Any further thoughts?
> Thanks again,

In a private email, you asked me if I was aware of any bypass or Valet mode
for the system. No, I'm not. But I don't think there is one.

The Owner's Manual for your car mentions no Valet mode, so it looks like
the only "Valet" function is that provided by the Valet key that should
have come with the car. And all that does is lock out the trunk.

If the security system refuses to arm, the most likely culprits are still
the door/trunk/hood switches. Are any of the doors shown as being open
acording to the light on the dash? If not, then you still need to check the
hood switch.

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skipdogchip - 14 Dec 2006 20:25 GMT

According to the dash, all doors are closed. I can still lock and
unlock the doors remotely and open the trunk. The "Panic" button on
the remote still works. The Honda dealer informed me that to activate
the car "Theft Deterrent System" I needed to press the lock button
on the remote twice.
The first push locks the doors (no problem). The second push is to
avtivate the alarm system, however when I push it all I hear is a
click from the doors. The lights don’t flash and the horn doesn’t
sound to let me know that the system is armed. Hood or trunk problem?
Thanks again,
Skipdogchi

> skipdogchip <none@000.com> wrote in news:950484
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> to check the
> hood switch.

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Tegger - 14 Dec 2006 20:44 GMT

skipdogchip <none@000.com> wrote in news:951098_
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> According to the dash, all doors are closed. I can still lock and
> unlock the doors remotely and open the trunk. The "Panic" button on
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> click from the doors. The lights don’t flash and the horn doesn’t
> sound to let me know that the system is armed. Hood or trunk problem?

The trunk switch is one of those monitored by the dashboard lamp. The hood
is NOT monitored AT ALL. If the hood switch fails to function correctly,
the system will think the hood is open, and will refuse to set the alarm.
It will lock the doors, but not allow the alarm to be activated. You will
not know by looking at the dashboard lamp that this has occurred.

This is why I keep saying you need to check out the hood switch.

Until you do that, and rule out the hood switch as the source of the
trouble, there is not much more I can tell you.

What you may want to do (after ascertaining the hood switch is working
properly) is to have the dealer confirm that the remote has been correctly
programmed. Programming involves a procedure known as a "chicken dance".
Normally, this either works or it does not, so having the dealer confirm
programming is a long-shot solution.

Right now I think your hood switch is
defective/dislodged/corroded/disconnected.

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Seth - 14 Dec 2006 23:24 GMT

> According to the dash, all doors are closed. I can still lock and
> unlock the doors remotely and open the trunk. The "Panic" button on
> the remote still works. The Honda dealer informed me that to activate
> the car "Theft Deterrent System" I needed to press the lock button
> on the remote twice.

What your dealer told you is WRONG. The Honda anti-theft system sets
automatically 15 seconds after you lock the doors, hood and trunk from
outside the vehicle (key, lock tab, door lock switch or remote transmitter).
The chirp you get by pressing the button 2x is nothing more than
confirmation.

> The first push locks the doors (no problem). The second push is to
> avtivate the alarm system, however when I push it all I hear is a
> click from the doors. The lights don't flash and the horn doesn't
> sound to let me know that the system is armed. Hood or trunk problem?

Do you actually have a "Security System Light" next to the driver door lock
plunger that can be seen from outside the vehicle through the drivers
window?

If you actually have the security system, FIRST, do as Tegger says and check
the hood pin switch. That is the only sensor on the alarm system that is
not part of the monitor display (lights on dash to show what is open).

If that's OK, test the alarm. Leave the window down. Arm the alarm and
wait 20 seconds. Then open the car by reaching through the open window to
unlock and pull door handle. Does the alarm go off and the lights flash?

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skipdogchip - 15 Dec 2006 08:25 GMT

Seth,
Thanks for your input. Yes, there is a little red LED next to the
lock post. It used to flash (now...nothing). I also used to get a
confirmation "chirp" to let me know the system was set
(now...nothing). In the morning I will test the system as you
suggest, it’s late and my neighbors wouldn’t appreciate my playing
around with the alarm system. I will post back with the results. In
the mean time, I will look into the hood pin suggestion.
Thanks for your time,
Skipdogchi

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> unlock and pull door handle. Does the alarm go off and the
> lights flash?

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skipdogchip - 15 Dec 2006 19:25 GMT

Seth,
I tested the alarm system as you suggested (twice). No alarm either
time. So, let’s move on to testing the hood problem. How and what do
I need to test this part of the alarm system?
Thanks again for your help,
Skipdogchip

> Seth,
> Thanks for your input. Yes, there is a little red LED next to
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> Thanks for your time,
> Skipdogchip

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Seth - 18 Dec 2006 03:54 GMT

> Seth,
> I tested the alarm system as you suggested (twice). No alarm either
> time. So, let's move on to testing the hood problem. How and what do
> I need to test this part of the alarm system?
> Thanks again for your help,

Find the hood pin switch. If memory serves me, the wire coming form the
switch should show "open" when depressed and "ground" when up. If that test
good then follow the wires as it may be shorted to ground somewhere along
it's path. "ground" on that wire means the hood is open.

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