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Car Forum / Honda Cars / January 2007

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2001 Accord V6 Trans Slip

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GoHonda - 31 Dec 2006 22:33 GMT
Got a nice 01 Accord V6 54k mile bought as flood salvage cleaned up
nicely runs and drives great but the trans is slipping going into 2nd
and 3rd. It does not slip if I shift manualy through the gears. I know
honda has a recall but was wonding if the water has something to do
with it. No water in the trans and I have changed the fluid. TSU
possibly or other sensor? Well one can hope think I'm stuck putting a
new trans in. Any thoughts???
motsco_ - 31 Dec 2006 23:39 GMT
> Got a nice 01 Accord V6 54k mile bought as flood salvage cleaned up
> nicely runs and drives great but the trans is slipping going into 2nd
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> possibly or other sensor? Well one can hope think I'm stuck putting a
> new trans in. Any thoughts???

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How many times did you drain-n-fill the tranny, and what did you replace
the fluid with?

'Curly'
GoHonda - 01 Jan 2007 03:26 GMT
I took it to Jiffy lube were they flushed the fluid. I have google
since on this and guess it wasn't such a good thing and I'm not sure
what they put in.
Gordon McGrew - 01 Jan 2007 05:38 GMT
>I took it to Jiffy lube were they flushed the fluid. I have google
>since on this and guess it wasn't such a good thing and I'm not sure
>what they put in.

Did the problem start before or after the flush?  

Some chains do a courtesy wall job.  That is, they park it against the
wall and don't actually do the service.  The charge is the same and it
is a better deal for everybody.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 01 Jan 2007 14:09 GMT
> I took it to Jiffy lube were they flushed the fluid. I have google
> since on this and guess it wasn't such a good thing and I'm not sure
> what they put in.

So undo it as quickly as possible.

The way to undo it is to drain, fill, drive, drain, fill drive through
several cycles.  Use ONLY Honda fluid.
Unquestionably Confused - 01 Jan 2007 14:54 GMT
>> I took it to Jiffy lube were they flushed the fluid. I have google
>> since on this and guess it wasn't such a good thing and I'm not sure
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> The way to undo it is to drain, fill, drive, drain, fill drive through
> several cycles.  Use ONLY Honda fluid.

I agree that this is a potential solution to the problem but what of the
underlying problem?  That is, the idiots at Jiffy Screw who peddle this
crap, telling you they know best what your car needs, and then CAUSING
the problem through improper service?

Seems to me one would have a legal course of action against them and
perhaps, if more availed themselves of the possible legal remedies,
they'd stop this crap.

I admit to using Jiffy and the like for oil changes ONLY.  I maintain my
cars well and every time I go into one of these places they have
"recommendations"

Air cleaner is clogged up (when I installed a new one <4,000 miles
previous and it's just dirty enough to be seen as used), "GM recommends
a transmission fluid change every 27,000 miles.  When did you last
change the fluid?" (This was 14,000 miles after GM installed a
remanufactured Goodwrench tranny), and so it goes.
GoHonda - 01 Jan 2007 17:30 GMT
Thanks for the help I will drain fill drive, drain fill drive, drain
fill drive. I will post the results....Thanks Again
G-Man - 01 Jan 2007 21:32 GMT
And only use Honda fluid!

Then, when the problem is fixed, go to JL and demand your money back.

G-Man

> Thanks for the help I will drain fill drive, drain fill drive, drain
> fill drive. I will post the results....Thanks Again
GoHonda - 01 Jan 2007 22:34 GMT
Well while at JL they said there was no drain plug for the trans and I
had a choice of draining through the dip stick (via pump and replace)
or do the flush hmmm.. The drain plug could not be more obvious at the
lowest point of the trans. I pulled the plug and it was coated whith a
pure black sludge. The first half of the drain was very dark almost a
pure black then toward the last quart or so the fluid began to look
red. Not sure if they changed anything....
jim beam - 01 Jan 2007 22:58 GMT
> Well while at JL they said there was no drain plug for the trans and I
> had a choice of draining through the dip stick (via pump and replace)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> pure black then toward the last quart or so the fluid began to look
> red. Not sure if they changed anything....

almost certainly not!  apart from the fact that they ripped you, that's
a good thing!

bottom line, while use of non-honda fluid definitely affects shift
quality big time, it does not in my experience cause the transmission to
slip - just shift like someone slammed a door in your face.  if your
transmission is slipping, it's either a control solenoid [unlikely but
possible] or something is fouled up.  black sludge in the fluid
indicates the latter.  call honda usa's national customer support line
tomorrow and see what they say.  there was a huge recall on these
transmissions and you may be covered.
Gordon McGrew - 02 Jan 2007 04:55 GMT
>> Well while at JL they said there was no drain plug for the trans and I
>> had a choice of draining through the dip stick (via pump and replace)
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>tomorrow and see what they say.  there was a huge recall on these
>transmissions and you may be covered.

And after that, file a complaint against JL with the Attorney General.
GoHonda - 03 Jan 2007 02:09 GMT
Well performed the first drain and refill and it looks promising. It
shifted much better, the slip from 1st to 2nd has cleared up. Still
have a slip going from 2nd to 3rd but much better about a 50%
improvement. I drove it about 10 miles and now I'm draining the trans
again will refill tomorrow and repeat two more times. Looks promising
so far. Thanks for all the help and advice. I will post the final
results....
jim beam - 03 Jan 2007 02:17 GMT
> Well performed the first drain and refill and it looks promising. It
> shifted much better, the slip from 1st to 2nd has cleared up. Still
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> so far. Thanks for all the help and advice. I will post the final
> results....

another thought, if the transmission really is slipping, i.e. the
clutches aren't holding, you will get a code from the ecu.  the 2001 has
sensors on the input and output shafts to detect speed anomalies, and
therefore slippage.
GoHonda - 03 Jan 2007 02:39 GMT
Thanks Jim I will check the codes....
MLD - 02 Jan 2007 03:27 GMT
> I took it to Jiffy lube were they flushed the fluid. I have google
> since on this and guess it wasn't such a good thing and I'm not sure
> what they put in.

You bought a car that was salvaged , (cleaned up) from flood damage. Got a
transmission problem--Wow, that's a surprise.  Then you compound it all by
bringing it in to a Jiffy Lube.  And then you post here asking for anyone's
thoughts.  Amazing!!!!
 
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