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Car Forum / Honda Cars / January 2007

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question about hondas navi

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Rusty - 12 Jan 2007 01:14 GMT
thinking about buying the new 2007 accord ex-l
if i buy the navi does it come with the navi cd's? And when they update do i
have to buy the new cds? they are 310$
thanks
Roger Forsgren - 12 Jan 2007 02:47 GMT
> thinking about buying the new 2007 accord ex-l
> if i buy the navi does it come with the navi cd's? And when they
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Yea it comes with a DVD.  You would need to update it maybe every couple
of years.  I think its more like 150 bucks, not 310.
G-Man - 12 Jan 2007 14:38 GMT
I have a 2006 Accord NAV, and I a 2005 Pilot non-Nav.  I got a Garmin 360
Nuvi, and I swear it is more useful than the onboard NAV.  Cost about $600
compared to the thousands to get the NAV in the accord.  But I will say the
other features in the NAV electronics are nice.  I love the display.

Gary

>> thinking about buying the new 2007 accord ex-l
>> if i buy the navi does it come with the navi cd's? And when they
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> Yea it comes with a DVD.  You would need to update it maybe every couple
> of years.  I think its more like 150 bucks, not 310.
Unquestionably Confused - 12 Jan 2007 14:57 GMT
> I have a 2006 Accord NAV, and I a 2005 Pilot non-Nav.  I got a Garmin 360
> Nuvi, and I swear it is more useful than the onboard NAV.  Cost about $600
> compared to the thousands to get the NAV in the accord.  But I will say the
> other features in the NAV electronics are nice.  I love the display.

I also use the Garmin units in my cars.  Have semi-permanently mounted
(w/external antenna) a 2610 in the dash bin beneath the heater/radio
console and it works fine.

I don't know that it's MORE useful than the built-in as I don't have one
to compare it to.  It does, however, do everything I could want it to
and does it well.

I, too, thought the update DVD's for the built in NAV systems were in
the $300 range.  Another fine deal from Garmin $75/year for their DVD
which allows you to update TWO, not one but TWO, GPS units.
Steve YATES - 12 Jan 2007 18:32 GMT
I have a CRV here in France that I bought new last April. The GPS is a
joke and has let me down a number of times, some of this is down to
road modifications but some is just cr*p programming/data.Files on the
DVD are all dated 2004 for a car bought in 2006.  Bad News of the day
is that they want 320 Euros to replace the DVD which is the only
upgrade route !!

Steve

On Jan 12, 3:57 pm, Unquestionably Confused <puzzl...@ameritech.net>
wrote:
> > I have a 2006 Accord NAV, and I a 2005 Pilot non-Nav.  I got a Garmin 360
> > Nuvi, and I swear it is more useful than the onboard NAV.  Cost about $600
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> the $300 range.  Another fine deal from Garmin $75/year for their DVD
> which allows you to update TWO, not one but TWO, GPS units.
Rusty - 12 Jan 2007 22:07 GMT
yes they are 310$, maybe i will just skip the navi and go aftermarket.
thanks for replies
>> I have a 2006 Accord NAV, and I a 2005 Pilot non-Nav.  I got a Garmin 360
>> Nuvi, and I swear it is more useful than the onboard NAV.  Cost about
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> $300 range.  Another fine deal from Garmin $75/year for their DVD which
> allows you to update TWO, not one but TWO, GPS units.
Unquestionably Confused - 13 Jan 2007 02:03 GMT
> yes they are 310$, maybe i will just skip the navi and go aftermarket.
> thanks for replies

Yeah, I thought that figure was pretty close to the mark from what I'd seen.

I suspect the Nuvi from Garmin would fit in the console bin even better
than my Garmin 2610 which works just fine at that location.  I just
drilled a hole in the back of the bin and ran the wires through.  All I
needed was a switched 12v which I obtained from the accessory socket
right in front of the bin.  Directions for getting at it are available
on that website (sorry, forget the name) that includes the Honda
instructions in .pdf for all the accessories they sell.  Grab the one
for the Cigarette Ashtray with lighter.

What's really nice (IMNSHO) is that the cover for the bin slips down
when the Navi's not in use and doesn't attract thieves.  The external
antenna itself is squirreled away beneath the rear package shelf, in the
trunk.  Nice little access hole in the steel and it slips right in.
Works like a charm and I typically see accuracy of +/- 7 feet with the
unit.  Close enough<g>
Chris Mattingly - 13 Jan 2007 03:35 GMT
>> yes they are 310$, maybe i will just skip the navi and go aftermarket.
>> thanks for replies
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> Works like a charm and I typically see accuracy of +/- 7 feet with the
> unit.  Close enough<g>

$189 + tax & shipping (from
https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadvdsales/naviorder.php).  Hmmm... it
says there's a 30day return policy.  Interesting... :)

Just tonight, though, we saw the most inaccurate mapping from the
Honda's navi system... for as reliable as it has been around here, it
was a real bummer.
Unquestionably Confused - 13 Jan 2007 04:03 GMT
> $189 + tax & shipping (from
> https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadvdsales/naviorder.php).  Hmmm... it
> says there's a 30day return policy.  Interesting... :)

Better price and I can read your mind (GMTA) but forget it.  I think
you'll find that like Garmin's maps the data is unlocked by GPS unit
serial number.  They've got the copy protection down pat.  Hell, when
the new DVD's are issued they send them to their users for FREE.  You
don't get unlocked until you pay the license fee which, as I mentioned
earlier, has gotten VERY reasonable. They just reduced it last year to
$75.  Think it was either $130 or $150.  Decent company with a great
product and they aren't out to screw over their customer base.

> Just tonight, though, we saw the most inaccurate mapping from the
> Honda's navi system... for as reliable as it has been around here, it
> was a real bummer.

Happens with the best of them.  My Garmin's generally spot on but every
once in awhile she'll get thrown for a loop.  Biggest problem seems to
be homing in on some restaurants or venues that you find by name and
city and then tell her to take you to.  If it happens to be situated at
a shopping mall (and generally not in an outlot location) she'll go nuts
trying to find it since she doesn't know that it's _IN_ the mall.

Still, like my AMEX, I'd never leave home without it.
Joe LaVigne - 13 Jan 2007 08:35 GMT
>> $189 + tax & shipping (from
>> https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadvdsales/naviorder.php).  Hmmm... it
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> $75.  Think it was either $130 or $150.  Decent company with a great
> product and they aren't out to screw over their customer base.

Yep.  And a Garmin c320 is available for around $250 if you look hard
enough.  Add a 1GB SD Card ($15) and you can load the entire US & Canada.
And it is an extremely accurate map system.  I have driven in tiny little
towns in NY and PA, and the Garmin knew of streets that I never would have
called streets.  Barely alleys.
Chris Mattingly - 14 Jan 2007 14:08 GMT
>> $189 + tax & shipping (from
>> https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadvdsales/naviorder.php).  Hmmm... it
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> $75.  Think it was either $130 or $150.  Decent company with a great
> product and they aren't out to screw over their customer base.

Ah, didn't even dawn on me about unlocking issues.  Better to be honest
anyways, right? :)

>> Just tonight, though, we saw the most inaccurate mapping from the
>> Honda's navi system... for as reliable as it has been around here, it
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>
> Still, like my AMEX, I'd never leave home without it.

Even after it sent us for a loop, I feel the same way.  A mistake from
the navi isn't going to make me like it any less.

-Chris
Michael Pardee - 14 Jan 2007 17:56 GMT
>> $189 + tax & shipping (from
>> https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadvdsales/naviorder.php).  Hmmm... it
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> it was either $130 or $150.  Decent company with a great product and they
> aren't out to screw over their customer base.

I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.

Mike
Unquestionably Confused - 14 Jan 2007 19:10 GMT
> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
> a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
> saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
> on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
> text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
> also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.

Interesting.  I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells
are Intel processor equipped.

Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can
be removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
 OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem
for me if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.
Seth - 14 Jan 2007 19:31 GMT
>> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates
>> require a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update
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> Interesting.  I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells are
> Intel processor equipped.

Yes until most recently.  They're starting to put AMD in some machines.

> Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can be
> removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
> OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem for me
> if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.
L Alpert - 13 Jan 2007 13:25 GMT
>> I have a 2006 Accord NAV, and I a 2005 Pilot non-Nav.  I got a
>> Garmin 360 Nuvi, and I swear it is more useful than the onboard NAV.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> the $300 range.  Another fine deal from Garmin $75/year for their DVD
> which allows you to update TWO, not one but TWO, GPS units.

Updates, last I looked, were about $180 from Alpine.
 
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