"dizzy"=distributor? was the igniter replaced also?
Was the distributor cap and rotor replaced? Ignition coil?

why was the relay bypassed?
Problems with the main relay solder joints are a common cause of "cranks
but won't keep running".(due to no fuel pressure at the rail)
How is the fuel pressure at the fuel rail?

What model year is it? Mileage?
Ignition switch? (maybe worn out)

Check the engine grounds.unscrew each one,scrape to bare metal for good
contact,tighten. Inspect the ground wires for corrosion.

what is the year of the vehicle?  do you get any codes?  if so, what?

"injectors" sounds like classic main relay [and highly
incompetent/expensive misrepair], but please confirm the other
information requested to help diagnosis.

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If it _only_ happens after the (unknown) Civic has sat overnight or over
the weekend, it's probably simple flooding. The owner's manual tells you
how to get it to start. The cure is to run injector cleaner (one is
dribbling overnight) through the engine three or four times a year. My
Odyssey did it too. I never thought to read the manual and spent a bunch
of unnecesary money on it.

'Curly'

kitty666r <none@000.com> wrote in news:974096_
6c0302f56ee1978dc91b46fdabdfaa78@autoboardz.com:

You replaced the computer? That wasn't bright.

Can't do that in an EFI vehicle. you're misunderstanding whatever they
did.

No, you took it to an indepenent dealer that owns a Honda franchise,

A new "one"? How many injectors tdoes this car have? You'd better give
the year and model here.

That wasn't bright at all. Pretty stupid, in fact.

Sounds like that "fuel relay" that they allegedly bypassed. The solder's
cracked. You'll get the no-start plus the injector error if the solder
cracks just the right way.

See here:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#mainrelay

What really bothers me is that I can't recall anybody who has reported a bad
wiring harness (loom) in Hondas. It seems odd the shop even suggests that.
You are already (as you seem to suspect) way beyond the point of any
troubleshooting being done. Follow TeGGeR's link for the "main relay" -
which is pretty much the first thing we think of when somebody mentions
intermittent start. As TeGGeR says, bypassing it isn't really an option.
Replacing it on general suspicion (as has been done with several more
expensive parts, apparently) is reasonable, since it is a part that can be
expected to give trouble every decade or so... and produce the very symptoms
you describe.

Mike

thanks for your help guys i appriciate it xx

its a 1994 honda civic lsi,


the fault code was code 16 they said it was due to the injectors, so i
replaced the lot, it came up again ( 16 ) they said it was the ecu had
that replaced... did the same,

the fuel relay was bypassed in case it cut out the fuel for any reason
i think, its done 109,000 miles
the distributer cap and rotor were also replaced,

as for the once in a blue moon thing....
i go on holiday for 2 weeks come back and it starts fine... after a
week or so of smooth starting i go up the shop get something get in
the car and chug chug chug doesnt start, it sounds ok on turning over
it just wont kick in, i leave it for a coupl of minutes then it
starts,
its then fine for a week or so,

when a mechanic has it in the garage he starts it every half hour for
two days.... doesnt do it, after a few days of yet again smooth
starting i drive to work 7 miles away, leave it for 8 hours then i try
again wont start.. FOR AN HOUR rac comes out to rescue me, he arrives
and oh... it starts as soon as he gets there!

i couldnt put an exact time period say it does it every 12 days
because its that unpredictable
thankyou for all your suggestions i will print them out and shove them
under hondas nose keep them coming it all helps!

cheers for restoring my faith in guys  :wink:  :D