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Car Forum / Honda Cars / March 2007

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Best buy messed up radio installation! need help!

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Steve - 03 Mar 2007 01:13 GMT
I have 98 Honda Civic EX 5 speed. I bought a car radio with free
installation from best buy a few months ago..now I see why it was free. The
original radio in there was the stock one that has two seperate parts, the
top part where a normal radio would go with the controls and lower (not
connected to the top one) is where the CD would be put in. So they took the
original radio (the top part) out and I just now found it stuffed under my
passanger seat still connected to wires. I then tried to disconnect the
original radio from the wires, which made an alarm go off.  I connected the
radio back into the wire hoping this would stop the alarm, no such luck. Now
it seems that any bumps or any movement make the alarm go off. I am thinking
it is a safety feature for if the radio were being stolen. How do I get the
radio out and stop the alarm???
Any help greatly appreciated
 Sally
Steve - 03 Mar 2007 01:41 GMT
The alarm just started going off again while it was just sitting in the
driveway. It doesnt beep on and off like an alarm normally does, it is just
one continues beep. I disconnected the battery for now so hopefully it wont
go off again. I looked at the wires connected to the radio and noticed that
at least one of them are cut so maybe this missing connection is adding to
the problem?
Again, any help appreciated
 Sally
MinnesotaMike - 03 Mar 2007 01:55 GMT
Although I'm not a big Best Buy fan, if your Civic is like my son's '97,
the original stereo has to stay connected for the car's remote control
to work.  Without the original, your remote will not lock and unlock the
car.  Did you reconnect everything just as it was?  No loose
connections?  Just a thought.

Mike
Seth - 03 Mar 2007 01:49 GMT
>I have 98 Honda Civic EX 5 speed. I bought a car radio with free
>installation from best buy a few months ago..now I see why it was free. The
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>thinking it is a safety feature for if the radio were being stolen. How do
>I get the radio out and stop the alarm???

You DON'T take the radio out.  They did that as the alarm and keyless entry
are integrated into the stock radio.

What you NEED to do is fix whatever you messed up trying to take the radio
out.
Steve - 03 Mar 2007 02:56 GMT
> You DON'T take the radio out.  They did that as the alarm and keyless
> entry
> are integrated into the stock radio.
>
> What you NEED to do is fix whatever you messed up trying to take the radio
> out.

Best Buy installed a new radio.
Instead of removing the old radio they stuffed it under the passenger seat.
Is this true that the original radio cant be removed?

Sally
Seth - 03 Mar 2007 03:28 GMT
>> You DON'T take the radio out.  They did that as the alarm and keyless
>> entry
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> seat.
> Is this true that the original radio cant be removed?

Per your original post, the old radio, regardless of where they "stuffed" it
is still wired.  That is not out of laziness or incompetence.

You can remove it, but you will lose your alarm and keyless entry.

Your choice.
Me - 04 Mar 2007 03:22 GMT
>>> You DON'T take the radio out.  They did that as the alarm and keyless
>>> entry
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>
> Your choice.
and in the case of my '97 Civic, the dome light is also routed through the
OEM radio.  I re-installed the OEM radio and moved on.
Rosscoe
Howard Lester - 03 Mar 2007 03:34 GMT
>> You DON'T take the radio out.  They did that as the alarm and keyless
>> entry
>> are integrated into the stock radio.
>>
>> What you NEED to do is fix whatever you messed up trying to take the
>> radio out.

> Best Buy installed a new radio.
> Instead of removing the old radio they stuffed it under the passenger
> seat.
> Is this true that the original radio cant be removed?

That's what the man said.   The original radio's connections are integral to
the operation of the keyless entry, dome lights, and, in your case, the
alarm(s).  It was all working correctly before you started cutting wires,
right? Put everything back the way you found it, and no one will get hurt.

In my '97 Civic EX 5-speed, the installers of my new radio strapped the
original radio to the new one and kept all the original wiring intact. All
worked perfectly.
Steve - 03 Mar 2007 12:09 GMT
> That's what the man said.   The original radio's connections are integral
> to
> the operation of the keyless entry, dome lights, and, in your case, the
> alarm(s).  It was all working correctly before you started cutting wires,
> right? Put everything back the way you found it, and no one will get hurt.

Didnt cut wires. Just unplugged the radio and the horn started blowing. I do
suspect a wire came loose but I have to wait untill daylight to inspect
closer.

The problem with leaving the original is that they put it under the seat and
you cannot slide the seat forward or backward.
The car is a coupe and not being able to slide the seat forward for access
to the rear is a problem.
Also, if the alarm was disabled by removing the radio that would be one
thing but when the radio is unplugged the horn sounds continually.
9:00 pm last night, with the car just sitting in the driveway the horn went
off and I had to get my dad to disconect the battery.

> In my '97 Civic EX 5-speed, the installers of my new radio strapped the
> original radio to the new one and kept all the original wiring intact. All
> worked perfectly.

If Best Buy had strapped the old radio onto the new one and it was out of
the way there wouldnt be a problem.

So Honda makes no provisions for removing the factory radio?
There is no "jumper" you could plug into the harness that would allow you to
remove the radio and still maintain the function of those other items?

I'll look today and see if I can locate the old radio in a more"convenient"
location.

thanks for the info...

sally
Steve - 03 Mar 2007 13:00 GMT
>> That's what the man said.   The original radio's connections are integral
>> to
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> do suspect a wire came loose but I have to wait untill daylight to inspect
> closer.

It took some digging but I found a .pdf that gives detail about this radio
and how to deal with it.

YOU ARE CORRECT!

sorry I just think its such a bad idea to involve the radio that I couldnt
believe it.

thanks again.

sally
Howard Lester - 03 Mar 2007 13:19 GMT
> It took some digging but I found a .pdf that gives detail about this radio
> and how to deal with it.
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>
> thanks again.

You're welcome. Glad we could help solve your problem.
Randolph - 04 Mar 2007 08:48 GMT
<snip/.

> YOU ARE CORRECT!
>
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>
> sally

I agree, it stinks. Honda did wise up, this setup was used only in '96
through '98.
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MinnesotaMike - 03 Mar 2007 13:10 GMT
Sally,

When I replaced my original stereo in my '97 Civic, I put the old stereo
in the dash behind the heater controls.  There should be enough room to
slip it back behind there.  I just found a nice snug spot so that the
stereo didn't bounce around.  Not that that was a problem since there
isn't a lot of room back there.

Mike
 
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