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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2007

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What to check on 96 Accord EX

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C R - 10 Aug 2007 17:55 GMT
Hi all, 1996 Honda Accord EX 5 Speed.  Starting yesterday, whenever I get in
and start the vehicle, the radio displays code.  I also lose all my presets.
I have the code and put it in, but once I turn off the car, the cycle
repeats.  Also, the clock resets and also does not display as it usually
does when the vehicle is on.  When I press the panel that covers the
buttons, it displays the time (starting at 1:00 from when I started the
vehicle).
Does anyone know what fuse/relay/wire to check to fix this?
E Meyer - 10 Aug 2007 23:15 GMT
On 8/10/07 11:55 AM, in article 46bc98b7$0$9008$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, "C
R" <cgeorge4four@fourec.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi all, 1996 Honda Accord EX 5 Speed.  Starting yesterday, whenever I get in
> and start the vehicle, the radio displays code.  I also lose all my presets.
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> vehicle).
> Does anyone know what fuse/relay/wire to check to fix this?

The radio backup fuse is blown.  Look for it in the underhood fusebox.
Usually 7.5 amps
Tegger - 10 Aug 2007 23:56 GMT
> On 8/10/07 11:55 AM, in article
> 46bc98b7$0$9008$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, "C R"
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> The radio backup fuse is blown.  Look for it in the underhood fusebox.
> Usually 7.5 amps

Is this fuse actually called "radio backup? I should put this in the FAQ.

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High Tech Misfit - 11 Aug 2007 03:03 GMT
>> The radio backup fuse is blown.  Look for it in the underhood fusebox.
>> Usually 7.5 amps
>
> Is this fuse actually called "radio backup? I should put this in the FAQ.

I don't know what it is on that version of Accord.  But if I remember right,
on the 4th-gen (1990-93) there was a fuse under the hood that was called
simply "backup".
E Meyer - 11 Aug 2007 04:53 GMT
On 8/10/07 5:56 PM, in article Xns9988C0686C9EEtegger@207.14.116.130,

>> On 8/10/07 11:55 AM, in article
>> 46bc98b7$0$9008$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, "C R"
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Is this fuse actually called "radio backup? I should put this in the FAQ.

It seems to hold up until at least model year 2000.  On my '96 Odyssey it
was "radio bu".  On the '00 TL it was simply "bkup".  The consistent thing
was they both said "backup" in some abbreviation and they are 7.5A.  This is
also the fuse you pull to reset the ECM.

On the '06 CR-V, it says "audio" and its 10A (the ECM backup is also on a
different fuse on the CR-V).
Tegger - 11 Aug 2007 13:04 GMT
> On 8/10/07 5:56 PM, in article Xns9988C0686C9EEtegger@207.14.116.130,

>> Is this fuse actually called "radio backup? I should put this in the
>> FAQ.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> On the '06 CR-V, it says "audio" and its 10A (the ECM backup is also
> on a different fuse on the CR-V).

The "backup" fuse has been present from at least 1990. I did some checking
in my shop manuals to see what pulling that fuse actually did.

It looks like if that fuse were blown, the ECU and various other things
would be reset at the same time as the clock.

Have you actually had the clock-reset thing happen to you personally? And
was it fixed by replacing the fuse?

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C R - 11 Aug 2007 17:27 GMT
The backup (radio) fuse has been replaced.  The radio has kept its presets
and the clock displays again.  Now how do I get the radio to recognize the
CD changer again?

>> On 8/10/07 5:56 PM, in article Xns9988C0686C9EEtegger@207.14.116.130,
>
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> Have you actually had the clock-reset thing happen to you personally? And
> was it fixed by replacing the fuse?
E Meyer - 12 Aug 2007 02:59 GMT
Can't help with that, but if the fuse blows again, I think the changer & its
associated wiring would be the first thing to check.

On 8/11/07 11:27 AM, in article 46bde376$0$30669$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, "C
R" <cgeorge4four@fourec.rr.com> wrote:

> The backup (radio) fuse has been replaced.  The radio has kept its presets
> and the clock displays again.  Now how do I get the radio to recognize the
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>> Have you actually had the clock-reset thing happen to you personally? And
>> was it fixed by replacing the fuse?
C R - 20 Aug 2007 14:29 GMT
I am now thinking the ECM may be involved, because I now have a check engine
light on (after replacing the fuse).  The disk changer is the one that has
been in the car since purchased used in 1998, so I would think it odd, but
not implausible, that it would cause problems now.  Still haven't gotten the
radio to re-recognize the disk changer yet.  I will try unplugging and
replugging when I have the time to rip apart the dashboard and console.
Thanks for the help so far,
C R

> Can't help with that, but if the fuse blows again, I think the changer &
> its
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>>> And
>>> was it fixed by replacing the fuse?
E Meyer - 11 Aug 2007 17:28 GMT
On 8/11/07 7:04 AM, in article Xns998952056DEE6tegger@207.14.116.130,

>> On 8/10/07 5:56 PM, in article Xns9988C0686C9EEtegger@207.14.116.130,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Have you actually had the clock-reset thing happen to you personally? And
> was it fixed by replacing the fuse?

I have experienced the radio "code" & it was that fuse, didn't notice the
clock at the time.

I found the service manual for the '96 Odyssey, which for all intents and
purposes is an Accord with captain's chairs.  The description in the FSM for
that fuse (#39 in the under-hood box) is "PCM, clock, audio unit".  Its sort
of interesting that the FSM only gives descriptions of the fuses' functions
and does not list the names on the fuse box cover.  At least in this case, I
believe that fuse or the wiring coming off it will account for both the OP's
problems.
Tegger - 15 Aug 2007 03:13 GMT
> On 8/11/07 7:04 AM, in article Xns998952056DEE6tegger@207.14.116.130,
>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> the fuse box cover.  At least in this case, I believe that fuse or the
> wiring coming off it will account for both the OP's problems.  

Thanks. I'll add this when I get a chance. It's common enough.

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Tegger - 29 Aug 2007 01:46 GMT
> On 8/11/07 7:04 AM, in article Xns998952056DEE6tegger@207.14.116.130,
>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> the fuse box cover.  At least in this case, I believe that fuse or the
> wiring coming off it will account for both the OP's problems.  

Finally added this to the FAQ. Thanks.

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Tegger - 29 Aug 2007 02:01 GMT
>> I have experienced the radio "code" & it was that fuse, didn't notice
>> the clock at the time.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Finally added this to the FAQ. Thanks.

Forgot the URL:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/clock_reset/index.html

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