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Car Forum / Honda Cars / September 2007

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1997 CRV Fuel Filter

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bigjcw1023@gmail.com - 08 Sep 2007 03:07 GMT
I tried to change the fuel filter in my crv and cannot get the bolts
to loosen up.  Is there a trick to this?  I tried to depressurize the
fuel system by removing gas cap.  I have the new honda filter in
sealed packae for over a year.  Please help!
jim beam - 08 Sep 2007 03:13 GMT
> I tried to change the fuel filter in my crv and cannot get the bolts
> to loosen up.  Is there a trick to this?  I tried to depressurize the
> fuel system by removing gas cap.  I have the new honda filter in
> sealed packae for over a year.  Please help!

why are you trying to change it?  are you suffering fuel starvation?
usually, honda filters last the life of the vehicle.
bigjcw1023@gmail.com - 08 Sep 2007 04:56 GMT
> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I tried to change the fuel filter in my crv and cannot get the bolts
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> why are you trying to change it?  are you suffering fuel starvation?
> usually, honda filters last the life of the vehicle.

The vehicle has 111000 and thought it wouldn't hurt the fuel system or
my mialege.  I avg 23.49mpg.  It runs fine though, so maybe I should
just let it be.
Tegger - 08 Sep 2007 13:35 GMT
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189223802.944595.188260
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>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > I tried to change the fuel filter in my crv and cannot get the bolts
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> my mialege.  I avg 23.49mpg.  It runs fine though, so maybe I should
> just let it be.

As I said in reply to your private email, it's best to get a garage to
change the filter. It's a bear getting those bolts undone by hand.

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loewent - 08 Sep 2007 16:17 GMT
if you use a flare nut wrench its no big deal.

>bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189223802.944595.188260
>@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
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>As I said in reply to your private email, it's best to get a garage to
>change the filter. It's a bear getting those bolts undone by hand.
bigjcw1023@gmail.com - 08 Sep 2007 21:19 GMT
> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote in news:1189223802.944595.188260
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Is it necessary to replace the fuel filter at my mileage, or is it
really lifetime as previously posted?
Tegger - 08 Sep 2007 21:41 GMT
>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote in news:1189223802.944595.188260
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> Is it necessary to replace the fuel filter at my mileage, or is it
> really lifetime as previously posted?

It's a good idea, but not absolutely necessary, no.

Generally speaking, I like to change them every 100,000 miles or so.

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bigjcw1023@gmail.com - 09 Sep 2007 05:37 GMT
> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189282773.404298.106430@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
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U mentioned impact wrench on filter, which is fine.  What about the
nut on the bottom of the filter.  The top has the banjo bolt that can
more easily be accessed.
loewent - 09 Sep 2007 06:21 GMT
I didn't say impact, i said flare nut wrench.

>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189282773.404298.106430@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
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>nut on the bottom of the filter.  The top has the banjo bolt that can
>more easily be accessed.
Tegger - 09 Sep 2007 18:22 GMT
> U mentioned impact wrench on filter, which is fine.  What about the
> nut on the bottom of the filter.  The top has the banjo bolt that can
> more easily be accessed.

You've got a different style of filter than I've got. You're saying the
inlet is on top and the outlet on bottom? Same idea would apply: Impact in
both places.

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bigjcw1023@gmail.com - 10 Sep 2007 05:19 GMT
> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189312667.138780.48720@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
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OK, the inlet is on bottom and the outlet top.  The top has the banjo
bolt, the bottom is the line going direct to the bottom of the filter.
jim beam - 10 Sep 2007 05:36 GMT
>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189312667.138780.48720@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
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> OK, the inlet is on bottom and the outlet top.  The top has the banjo
> bolt, the bottom is the line going direct to the bottom of the filter.

just leave the freakin' thing alone!  if you're getting fuel starvation,
you'll know it when you're ascending a 50% grade with the wife's mother,
all the kids, a roof rack and towing a trailer with a pig in it.  not
before.
bigjcw1023@gmail.com - 10 Sep 2007 05:40 GMT
> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189312667.138780.48720@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
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> all the kids, a roof rack and towing a trailer with a pig in it.  not
> before.

Why wait that long.  If you wait that long until the filter is
starving the system, then there is dirt in it, yes?  It can be assumed
that the filter can only hold so much dirt before it starts to slip
by.  Why let that dirt in the system and do more harm than necessary?
jim beam - 10 Sep 2007 06:25 GMT
>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189312667.138780.48720@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
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> that the filter can only hold so much dirt before it starts to slip
> by.  Why let that dirt in the system and do more harm than necessary?

because that dirt is in the filter, not the system!  it can't harm the
pump because it's already passed through, and it can't pass through to
the injectors - it's perfectly safe where it is.

i smell "recreational" maintenance.
bigjcw1023@gmail.com - 10 Sep 2007 06:27 GMT
> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
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> i smell "recreational" maintenance.

Does is not stand to reason that the dirt is bogging down the system?
Maybe not noticeable yet?
Tegger - 10 Sep 2007 11:39 GMT
>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:

>> i smell "recreational" maintenance.
>
> Does is not stand to reason that the dirt is bogging down the system?
> Maybe not noticeable yet?

If you're really worried about starvation, you can get the fuel pressure
checked at a garage. The pump runs at a constant volume, so any low-flow
issues will be evident in the shop. You'll be around 40psi if fuel flow is
still good.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with "recreational maintenance" provided
you are aware you're doing it to make yourself feel better.

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jim beam - 10 Sep 2007 13:41 GMT
>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Does is not stand to reason that the dirt is bogging down the system?

not yet.  the capacity of those things, under normal conditions, is over
300k miles.

> Maybe not noticeable yet?

/that/ is the point i keep asking - do you notice fuel starvation?  you
know, full throttle, up a big hill, with the vehicle fully loaded....
if so, /that/ is when you change the filter, not before.  honda fit real
filters with real mileage capacity, not those stupid thimble-sized
things that detroit uses.
Elle - 10 Sep 2007 14:52 GMT
I am curious: What does your owner's manual say about how
often the fuel filter should be changed?

For the 1997 Civic, it's every two years or 24k miles (UK
site's online service manual; I think it's a bit different
for American Hondas).

>I tried to change the fuel filter in my crv and cannot get
>the bolts
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> filter in
> sealed packae for over a year.  Please help!
 
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