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Car Forum / Honda Cars / September 20072003 Accord Whirring Noise in Engine?
Any ideas? It started just yesterday - it's very noticeable when accelerating and appears to be coming from the belt area on the driver's side under the hood. > Any ideas? It started just yesterday - it's very noticeable when > accelerating and appears to be coming from the belt area on the driver's > side under the hood. timing belt about to break? inspect asap and quit driving until fixed. thanks - I thought it was the belt - any idea of the cost to replace this? >> Any ideas? It started just yesterday - it's very noticeable when >> accelerating and appears to be coming from the belt area on the driver's >> side under the hood. > timing belt about to break? > > inspect asap and quit driving until fixed. > thanks - I thought it was the belt - any idea of the cost to replace this? My dealership (Arizona) gets $545 (at least, and less a customary 10% off if you ask nice) for the belt, water pump, and external belts. How many hours would this take to repair? thanks again >> thanks - I thought it was the belt - any idea of the cost to replace >> this? > > My dealership (Arizona) gets $545 (at least, and less a customary 10% off > if you ask nice) for the belt, water pump, and external belts. > thanks - I thought it was the belt - any idea of the cost to replace this? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> inspect asap and quit driving until fixed. I doubt it is the timing belt, but it might be the accessory drive belt. >> thanks - I thought it was the belt - any idea of the cost to replace >> this? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I doubt it is the timing belt, but it might be the accessory drive belt. you'd better hope you're right! when timing belts fray, they /do/ make a whining noise. ignoring that costs real dollars. > Any ideas? It started just yesterday - it's very noticeable when > accelerating and appears to be coming from the belt area on the driver's > side under the hood. 4 or 6 cyl? How many miles? (Only 6 cyl's have a timing belt per my '04 manual.) > 4 or 6 cyl? How many miles? (Only 6 cyl's have a timing belt per my '04 > manual.) You had better read another manual. {;^) >> 4 or 6 cyl? How many miles? (Only 6 cyl's have a timing belt per my '04 >> manual.) > > You had better read another manual. {;^) :-) Yeah, that was pretty dumb, huh? OK, let me try it a different way: where *replacing* a timing belt is concerned, the owner's manual indicates it's necessary only in the 6 cylinder. How's that? > :-) Yeah, that was pretty dumb, huh? OK, let me try it a different way: > where *replacing* a timing belt is concerned, the owner's manual indicates > it's necessary only in the 6 cylinder. How's that? In the Owners Manuals of all of my 4 cylinder Honda cars ('79, '83, '85, '88, another '88, '91, '94 and '97) they stated the timing belt should be replaced around 96,000 kilometres. The '01 V6 required the timing belt to be changed at 160,000 kilometres. >> :-) Yeah, that was pretty dumb, huh? OK, let me try it a different way: >> where *replacing* a timing belt is concerned, the owner's manual >> indicates it's necessary only in the 6 cylinder. How's that? > In the Owners Manuals of all of my 4 cylinder Honda cars ('79, '83, > '85, '88, another '88, '91, '94 and '97) they stated the timing belt > should be replaced around 96,000 kilometres. The '01 V6 required the > timing belt to be changed at 160,000 kilometres. But in '03 apparently things must have changed. My Accord is an '04 4-cylinder. The Service Interval section of the Owner's Manual refers to changing the timing belt at 105,000 miles, or 60,000 miles severe service, and specifies "6-cylinder only." In the 4-cylinder Service Interval section of the manual there is no reference at all to a timing belt, intimating there is no service required. Therefore, Your Honor, I conclude.... Now, what about this OP's whirring noise? :-) > But in '03 apparently things must have changed. My Accord is an '04 > 4-cylinder. The Service Interval section of the Owner's Manual refers to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Now, what about this OP's whirring noise? :-) Maybe it's a cat caught up in the belt? {;^) >> Now, what about this OP's whirring noise? :-) > Maybe it's a cat caught up in the belt? {;^) Chasing a mouse that's eaten the whirring wiring! OK, how long it takes to do the job, I don't know. I just leave the car for the day. Call and ask. >>> :-) Yeah, that was pretty dumb, huh? OK, let me try it a different way: >>> where *replacing* a timing belt is concerned, the owner's manual [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Now, what about this OP's whirring noise? :-) Brian's right, you need to read your owner's manual again and think about this. I am not sure about the 2004 Accord vs. 2003 Accord tho I suspect the same for the 4 cylinder engine. Maybe someone can confirm this ???? For the 2003 4cyl Accord, it specifies a drive belt which includes timing as part of functions. For this belt is says to inspect it at certain intervals and depending on the findings, it may need to be replaced. ref (2003 Accord sedan) : https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/AC0303/AC0303O00302B.pdf and https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/AC0303/AC0303O00248B.pdf (see page 250 and 252) ref (2004 Accord sedan) : https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/AC0404/AC0404O00234B.pdf (pg 235) Hope this helps !! i took the car over today - they found a slight leak in the pump, which supposedly caused the brake fluid to leak too - I did a complete service, which was overdue, and they told me the belts, everything else were fine. They said the noise may be there for the next 100,000 miles but said it's in perfect condition - thoughts? >>>> :-) Yeah, that was pretty dumb, huh? OK, let me try it a different >>>> way: [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Hope this helps !! from the top of my head i would say belt if thats what it is ran on. my dad has a 07 civic and the accessory belt makes whining most of the time sounds like a ufo (humming) > i took the car over today - they found a slight leak in the pump, which > supposedly caused the brake fluid to leak too - I did a complete service, > which was overdue, and they told me the belts, everything else were fine. > They said the noise may be there for the next 100,000 miles but said it's in > perfect condition - thoughts? yes, i think they're blowing smoke - hondas don't make noises like that normally, and if they do, they certainly won't last for 100k miles. if the pump seal is leaking, it's not long after that until the bearing goes. then the timing belt goes and you lose valves/pistons in your interference engine. find a different mechanic and get a second opinion. >>>>> :-) Yeah, that was pretty dumb, huh? OK, let me try it a different >>>>> way: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> >> Hope this helps !! turns out it was the belt pulley - it's fixed. >> i took the car over today - they found a slight leak in the pump, which >> supposedly caused the brake fluid to leak too - I did a complete service, [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >>> >>> Hope this helps !! > turns out it was the belt pulley - it's fixed. good. >>> i took the car over today - they found a slight leak in the pump, which >>> supposedly caused the brake fluid to leak too - I did a complete service, [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >>>> >>>> Hope this helps !! > But in '03 apparently things must have changed. My Accord is an '04 > 4-cylinder. The Service Interval section of the Owner's Manual refers to > changing the timing belt at 105,000 miles, or 60,000 miles severe service, > and specifies "6-cylinder only." In the 4-cylinder Service Interval section > of the manual there is no reference at all to a timing belt, intimating > there is no service required. Change they did. Honda's current 4 cylinder engines use a timing chain. Many customers are really unhappy about having to pay for costly timing belt replacements and thus many companies are going back to timing chains. >> But in '03 apparently things must have changed. My Accord is an '04 >> 4-cylinder. The Service Interval section of the Owner's Manual refers [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > timing belt replacements and thus many companies are going back to > timing chains. it's bizarre that in a time of improving emissions control, manufacturers would do that. as chains stretch, valve timing drifts and so consequently, does emissions. belts don't stretch ans remain dead-on accurate through their whole service life. and car owners getting ripped off by unscrupulous dealers and repair shops for over-expensive belt changes if not going to disappear because of a chain - there will always be something else to hose the customer with. >> 4 or 6 cyl? How many miles? (Only 6 cyl's have a timing belt per my '04 >> manual.) > > You had better read another manual. {;^) Modern Honda 4 cylinder engines use a timing chain, not a replaceable timing belt. The V-6s still use a belt. it's a 6 cylinder, 70,000 miles >> Any ideas? It started just yesterday - it's very noticeable when >> accelerating and appears to be coming from the belt area on the driver's >> side under the hood. > > 4 or 6 cyl? How many miles? (Only 6 cyl's have a timing belt per my '04 > manual.) > it's a 6 cylinder, 70,000 miles My guess would be that it is either the accessory drive belt or one of the things it runs such as the alternator or power steering pump. > Any ideas? It started just yesterday - it's very noticeable when > accelerating and appears to be coming from the belt area on the driver's > side under the hood. ================================= :-) Maybe it's your ANSWER: Have you been praying for Whirled Peas? 'Curly' :-) > > Any ideas? It started just yesterday - it's very noticeable when > > accelerating and appears to be coming from the belt area on the driver's > > side under the hood. Is it possible the alternator is going. I had a car that made that sound and it was the alternator. |
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