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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / December 2004Santa Fe timing belt replacement?
Took my SUV in for 100k service at a local dealer. Service guy said, "Ya got the timing belt replaced yet?" I asked if that was included in any of the previous services I had gotten. He said, "Nope, but it will completely destroy your engine if it breaks." How much does it cost, I asked. "$500 " Is there any way you can check to see if it needs replacing? "NO" So why should I pay $500 for something I'm not even sure is worn/old/about to break. "Because I can show you a junkyard full of Santa Fe's from this problem" So far, I haven't seen a lot of activity online about this. Any recomendations? I'm assuming when someone tries to hard-sell me something, that it's a scam, though with cars, it's always hard to tell. Help. Should have been done at 60K (your on borrowed time). The Hyundai engine is an "interference" engine and most likely WILL bend a valve at the minimum when (not if) it fails >Took my SUV in for 100k service at a local dealer. Service guy said, "Ya >got the timing belt replaced yet?" I asked if that was included in any of [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Help. >Took my SUV in for 100k service at a local dealer. Service guy said, "Ya >got the timing belt replaced yet?" I asked if that was included in any of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >recomendations? I'm assuming when someone tries to hard-sell me >something, that it's a scam, though with cars, it's always hard to tell. It's not a scam. Replacing the timing belt at 60K is a very common manufacturer recommendation. Replace it before you lose your engine. My question then is, if you are in for 100k service, why wasn't it done at 60k? If you don't get it done at 60k, you mine as well say goodbye to your warranty if it does go. You may have gotten lucky not to get it done at 60k, but like others have said, it would be in your best interest to replace it even it looks brand new. >>Took my SUV in for 100k service at a local dealer. Service guy said, "Ya >>got the timing belt replaced yet?" I asked if that was included in any of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It's not a scam. Replacing the timing belt at 60K is a very common > manufacturer recommendation. Replace it before you lose your engine. TDRacin® wrote: > My question then is, if you are in for 100k service, why wasn't it done at > 60k? If you don't get it done at 60k, you mine as well say goodbye to your > warranty if it does go. The timing belt is not covered under warranty and replacing it late should not affect the warranty on any other engine parts, since the timing belt is not a problem unless it breaks. > You may have gotten lucky not to get it done at > 60k, but like others have said, it would be in your best interest to replace > it even it looks brand new. I've seen timing belts go 125K miles without problems, particularly in engines that haven't developed any oil leaks that would oil the belt. I'm not suggesting that it's a good idea to let them go that long, but it's not necessarily a case of being on borrowed time, either. I didn't say it was covered. I said why wasn't it done at 60k, when Hyundai recommends you do it. And if you don't do it then, and it breaks, you are screwed because you didn't follow Hyundai's recommendations. If it does break, after having it replaced at 60k, then it would be covered under warranty should any thing happen. Thank you. >> My question then is, if you are in for 100k service, why wasn't it done >> at 60k? If you don't get it done at 60k, you mine as well say goodbye to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > not suggesting that it's a good idea to let them go that long, but it's > not necessarily a case of being on borrowed time, either. Not only is the timing belt covered by the factory warranty, it's part of the powertrain warranty which covers components for 10 years or 100k miles for the original owner. As long as the belt is replaced with a factory belt every 4 years or 60k miles, whichever comes first, Hyundai will stand behind the belt and any damage its breakage causes while you are within the warranty. If your belt is more than 4 years or 60k miles old and it breaks due to the fault of the belt, then Hyundai will not repair any damage caused by the breakage of the belt. > Took my SUV in for 100k service at a local dealer. Service guy said, "Ya > got the timing belt replaced yet?" I asked if that was included in any of [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Help. It should be replaced, but $500 sounds awfully expensive. Check with other dealers and reputable independent garages. This does not have to be done by a Hyundai dealer. In fact, you can do it yourself and still maintain your warranty. >> Took my SUV in for 100k service at a local dealer. Service guy said, "Ya >> got the timing belt replaced yet?" I asked if that was included in any of [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >be done by a Hyundai dealer. In fact, you can do it yourself and still >maintain your warranty. A timing belt is tricky to get right. You can damage your engine if you do it wrong. You'd better have someone who knows what they are doing handle it. $500 is not out of line, from what I have seen. I have had 2 belts replaced in the past. I just had mine done a few months ago when I hit 60K. Done at the dealer and $500 is not too bad. There is a lot of labor to move things around thanks to the Hyundai engine layout. I wouldn't even dream of trying this myself and is actually one thing I would recommend you have the dealer do. Kevin > >> Took my SUV in for 100k service at a local dealer. Service guy said, "Ya > >> got the timing belt replaced yet?" I asked if that was included in any of [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > $500 is not out of line, from what I have seen. I have had 2 belts > replaced in the past. Actually, you should probably replace the hydraulic tensioner also. This can fail and cause the belt to slip and result in damage to the engine. What's worse, the tensioner is only covered by the 5/60 warranty, so if it fails, Hyundai won't pay for any repairs to damage it caused. They shouldn't charge you any additional labor to install it when replacing the timing belt, but at my place of employment it's about $95 for the part. > A timing belt is tricky to get right. You can damage your engine if > you do it wrong. You'd better have someone who knows what they are > doing handle it. Although it will depend somewhat on the car, timing belt replacement is more labor intensive than difficult or "tricky". I've done a few on other cars and the belt removal and installation itself was actually quite easy. It just took a fair amount of time to remove everything necessary to access the belt, then to replace everything after the belt was installed. It's nothing that a reasonably skilled "shadetree mechanic" can't handle. "Took my SUV in for 100k service at a local dealer. Service guy said, "Ya got the timing belt replaced yet?" I asked if that was included in any of the previous services I had gotten. He said, "Nope, but it will completely destroy your engine if it breaks." How much does it cost, I asked. "$500 " Is there any way you can check to see if it needs replacing? "NO" So why should I pay $500 for something I'm not even sure is worn/old/about to break. "Because I can show you a junkyard full of Santa Fe's from this problem" You should have the belt changed every 60,000 miles. I would have this job done immediately, however $500 sounds a little steep to me. If you're a mechanically inclined person I can tell you it's not very hard to do this job, takes maybe 3 or 4 hours at the most for a first-timer. The biggest obstacle is removing the nut from the crankshaft pulley. If you have access to an impact wrench(I think even an electric one could probably knock that nut off) you can do the rest with regular hand tools. Chris |
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