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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / November 2005Question re: fog lights
My 03 Santa Fe does not allow me to use JUST fog lights, I must use in conjunction w/headlights only. I can't leave them on w/high beams either. Is there any way to switch this? >My 03 Santa Fe does not allow me to use JUST fog lights, I must use in >conjunction w/headlights only. I can't leave them on w/high beams >either. Is there any way to switch this? how are you at putting in switches and relays? ;-) >My 03 Santa Fe does not allow me to use JUST fog lights, I must use in >conjunction w/headlights only. I can't leave them on w/high beams >either. Is there any way to switch this? If you do check your local DMV law. It is possible butit may not be legal to run that way even if it works better. Some states have laws requiring the use of headlights under certain conditions. Yep .. follow the link to a Santa Fe forum member site. http://www.geocities.com/elusor/install/foglightmod.htm?20059 Gordo > My 03 Santa Fe does not allow me to use JUST fog lights, I must use in > conjunction w/headlights only. I can't leave them on w/high beams > either. Is there any way to switch this? > My 03 Santa Fe does not allow me to use JUST fog lights, I must use in > conjunction w/headlights only. I can't leave them on w/high beams > either. Is there any way to switch this? That's because they're wired according to DOT regulations. It's not legal to drive with fog lights only, nor with fogs and high beams. While the former can be useful in extremely snowy weather (when driving at LOW speeds), the latter is completely pointless, since fogs and high beams serve two entirely different purposes that are mutually exclusive. BTW, it's also illegal - not to mention inconsiderate - to drive with fog lights or other auxilliary lights when they're not necessary for the conditions. Or is your aim simply to irritate other drivers? First of all, I live way out in the country where us folks all have big trucks just to get around in the snow. And, although I referred to them a "fog lights" they are really "driving lights" since they are not amber, as real fog lights would be. In my part of the country, all the big boys drive around with there driving/fog lights on. And since I am an "over 50" female who needs to work, and has night vision problems, I had to purchase an SUV just to be able to continue working and driving at night for Nov/Dec/Jan when the stupid time changes. I do not ever drive at night other than when I have to for work. So, I am very offended by your comment about "pissing people off". The "driving lights" help tremendously in seeing the lower portion of the road and even with high beams it would be helpful. All the GM cars have such driving lights that are on all the time, so I was just asking. > First of all, I live way out in the country where us folks all have big > trucks just to get around in the snow. And, although I referred to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > have such driving lights that are on all the time, so I was just > asking. The fog lights on my Buick Regal only work on low beams. Pretty much useless too. Driving lights, fog lights (mine are white, so call them what you will, but GM calls them fog lights) whatever you want to call them, are pretty much a decorator item as they come from the factory.  Signature-Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net > First of all, I live way out in the country where us folks all have big > trucks just to get around in the snow. And, although I referred to > them a "fog lights" they are really "driving lights" since they are not > amber, as real fog lights would be. Color has nothing to do with the type of light (though amber fog lights can work better than white fog lights under some conditions). The difference is in the beam pattern and the intended purpose. Fog lights project a wide, flat beam that illuminates the edges of the road and the road surface immediately in front of the vehicle. They don't project very far, even less than low beam headlights. By law, they have to be wired to work only with low beams on. Driving lights are a supplement to high beam lights for long distance vision. They are useless in fog and snow and only partially effective in rain. The law dictates that these be wired to work only when the high beams are on. > In my part of the country, all > the big boys drive around with there driving/fog lights on. Fine, but that doesn't make it legal. When you install them yourself, you can wire them however you want, legal or not. > And since > I am an "over 50" female who needs to work, and has night vision > problems, Sorry to hear that...the vision problem, that is. > I had to purchase an SUV just to be able to continue working > and driving at night for Nov/Dec/Jan when the stupid time changes. What does the vehicle type have to do with night driving? > I do not ever drive at night other than when I have to for work. So, I > am very offended by your comment about "pissing people off". Don't take it so personally. Around here, there are a lot of morons on the road that seem to get their jollies by annoying other drivers, using their auxilliarly lights under clear conditions where they aren't necessary. Remember, blinding another driver may well cause an accident and the same courtesy you (should) extend by dimming your lights for approaching vehicles extends to auxilliary lights, too. That's probably part of the rationale for the laws governing them. > The "driving lights" help tremendously in seeing the lower portion of the > road and even with high beams it would be helpful. I think you're referring to fog lights. Perhaps it would be helpful to you, but all I'm telling you is why they're wired the way they are. It's the law in the US and car makers have to follow it. If you want to re-wire yours, go for it. It's not difficult. It's illegal, but if it works for you and helps you drive safely, that's really what matters, isn't it? I modified the fog lights on my Elantra to work independently of the headlights. However, I've only found it to be useful to use them alone under extremely snowy conditions where reflections from the low beams nearly blind me. Given the choice, I wouldn't be on the road under such conditions. > All the GM cars > have such driving lights that are on all the time, so I was just > asking. It sounds like you're confusing auxilliary lights (fog or driving lights) with "daytime running lights". They're not the same thing. Many cars have DRLs now. They're designed to make a car more visible to other drivers during the day and they serve no real purpose at night. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but this is a subject where terminology makes a big difference when you're trying to get a point across. Hopefully, I've made the distinctions between fog lights, driving lights and DRLs clear, so you can ask specifically about what you want. Honestly, I'm trying to help you. |
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