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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / January 2006

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Rust is already forming on '05 elantra

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suretrade001@hotmail.com - 11 Jan 2006 02:54 GMT
Help please.  There is a small crevice that separates the driver side
bumper and the driver side headlight.  Between that crevice is a very
noticeable corrosion forming.  Looks like it has already form a
horizontal line of rust.

Is there warranty coverage for this and if not, please tell me
what cleaning material to buy so I can take care of this on my own?
Don - 11 Jan 2006 12:26 GMT
This specific area in the front is surrounded by plastic or vinyl, thus
I'm surprised rust would form in this area.  The area to the rear of
the headlight on the side of the car (where the bumper meets the
fender), now this is an area that I could see potential rust formation.

You may wish to address this with your dealer.  Another thought, in
addition to keeping the car waxed, you may wish to spray some WD40 in
those specific areas to minimize the moisture in that area.
suretrade001@hotmail.com - 11 Jan 2006 18:23 GMT
> This specific area in the front is surrounded by plastic or vinyl, thus
> I'm surprised rust would form in this area.  The area to the rear of
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> addition to keeping the car waxed, you may wish to spray some WD40 in
> those specific areas to minimize the moisture in that area.

So, spray WD-40 on the rust?  Will that remove it?
Mike Marlow - 11 Jan 2006 22:15 GMT
> > This specific area in the front is surrounded by plastic or vinyl, thus
> > I'm surprised rust would form in this area.  The area to the rear of
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>
> So, spray WD-40 on the rust?  Will that remove it?

No.  WD-40 will do a couple of things - it will chase water to a degree, and
it will "remove" surface rust to a degree.  It does not remove rust though.
You can wash a bit of the oxide you see away with it and that gives the
illusion of removing the rust, but be assured that laying behind, in pits in
the steel, is more rust.  Spray it with WD-40 every day, and you won't get
rid of the rust with WD-40.  The only way to get rid of rust is to remove
the affected metal.  This can be by sandblasting if it's not too bad, (as in
your case) or by grinding out metal in more extreme cases.  The bare or
repaired area would then have to be finished in approved ways.

You can convert rust with some chemicals available over the counter.
Typical Rustoleum paint is not one of these products.  There are agents out
there though (can't think of a brand name), that will react with the iron
oxide and turn the affected area black - the sign that the chemical
conversion has taken place.  You should finish this area in normal ways
also.

Additionally, you can use a product like POR-15 which seals the rust area in
an airtight layer.  Prevent the air from getting to the area and you prevent
oxidation - rust.  POR-15 needs to be finished as well.

If you really want your car fixed the right way, take it to the dealer and
see what they'll do for you.  If you are left holding the bag, then go to a
good body shop and let them fix it.  They will sandblast the affected are to
remove the surface rust completely, will probably hit the bare steel with an
etching primer followed by an epoxy primer, base and clear coats.  Properly
done, this will be a repair that will last the life of the car, and will
match the finish of the car without the cob-job appearance of the above
mentioned approaches.

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nothermark - 11 Jan 2006 12:27 GMT
>Help please.  There is a small crevice that separates the driver side
>bumper and the driver side headlight.  Between that crevice is a very
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Is there warranty coverage for this and if not, please tell me
>what cleaning material to buy so I can take care of this on my own?

With my 2006 the dealer said I havecorrosion protection *IF* i go in
every 6 mo for a $10 car wash.  Did you get a similar deal?  They also
pushed that there was a rustout warranty but that I had to maintain
the paint etc.  I would talk to the dealer and see wha they said.
Don - 11 Jan 2006 15:13 GMT
A follow-up . . .  here is a copy and paste of the Hyundai 7
Year/Unlimited Miles Anti-Perforation warranty.  Please note the last
sentence - no warranty for surface rust.  For compensation on this
warranty, it must rust from the inside of a body panel to the outside.
---------
Covers 7 years unlimited miles starting with 2005 Model Year
(previously 5 year/100,00 Miles for 2004 and prior model years).

Covers perforation (rust hole through the body panel from inside to
outside) corrosion of original Hyundai body sheet metal due to defects
in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance.

Excludes surface corrosion.
--------

I would suggest that timely washing and waxing, and other measures
against rust and corrosion be taken, especially at seams.  This is a
typical place for corrosion to begin. Again, a routine application of
WD40 to seams, and other areas where moisture seams to collect, is a
good preventive measure.
Jody - 11 Jan 2006 19:24 GMT
im pretty sure theres a paint defect warranty for a year..
>A follow-up . . .  here is a copy and paste of the Hyundai 7
> Year/Unlimited Miles Anti-Perforation warranty.  Please note the last
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> WD40 to seams, and other areas where moisture seams to collect, is a
> good preventive measure.
randy.mantle@gmail.com - 11 Jan 2006 15:24 GMT
You should try using a Rust Preventive Coating from POR-15.  I have had
wonderful success with it.  One of my buddies turned me onto it.
http://por15store.com
hyundaitech - 11 Jan 2006 17:46 GMT
This may be a paint warranty issue.  If that area of the car was damaged in
any sort of collision, expect coverage to be denied.
gerry - 11 Jan 2006 20:33 GMT
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>Help please.  There is a small crevice that separates the driver side
>bumper and the driver side headlight.  Between that crevice is a very
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>Is there warranty coverage for this and if not, please tell me
>what cleaning material to buy so I can take care of this on my own?

Although I haven't needed to test it, my 06 Sonata has a 12 month coverage
of ANY defect, wear and tear parts included, damage not included.

Give your dealer a chance at treating you well before any other actions.

gerry

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