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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / February 2006

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Elantra Lawsuit?

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Joe Hodgenson - 24 Jan 2006 20:42 GMT
I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
in the mail.  Whats that all about?  Is there a problem with my car I don't
know about?
Richard Dreyfuss - 24 Jan 2006 22:26 GMT
> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra
> owners in the mail.  Whats that all about?  Is there a problem with
> my car I don't know about?

Not to be rude, but read the letter.  I hadn't heard about it (my
elantra's older) but read it and let us know, or at least post any links
or case #s so that the rest of us can read it for ourselves.
Andy S - 25 Jan 2006 02:48 GMT
>I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
>in the mail.  Whats that all about?  Is there a problem with my car I don't
>know about?

It's a Class Action Suit dealing with the Passenger Classification System
for the  front passenger seat.

As suggested by the response above mine, read the letter

Signature

Andrew D. Sisson
LG VX8100
VZW<BAM<FRONTIER CELLULAR<ROCHESTER TEL. MOBILE
SID 154  EV-DO PRL 50463
SINCE APRIL 1993

Brian Nystrom - 25 Jan 2006 12:26 GMT
> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
> in the mail.  Whats that all about?  Is there a problem with my car I don't
> know about?

If it's the same one I got, it's about a malfunction with the
passenger's side seat sensor for the airbags. In some cases, it will not
recognize smaller adults, particularly if they don't sit squarely in the
seat. Hyundai is offering a re-programming solution, but it may cause
problems with child seats not being recognized as such. There is
apparently no ideal solution to the issue.

I plan to object to the exhorbitant 1.2 million dollar attorney's fees
sought in the suit.
Matt Whiting - 25 Jan 2006 21:34 GMT
>> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra
>> owners in the mail.  Whats that all about?  Is there a problem with my
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> I plan to object to the exhorbitant 1.2 million dollar attorney's fees
> sought in the suit.

Good for you.  I keep wondering when people will wake up and smell the
coffee and realize that the only winners in a class action are the lawyers.

Matt
comish4lif@verizon.net - 31 Jan 2006 17:14 GMT
It was an odd letter/agreement.

The lawyers get more than a million dollars.

And you the consumer? Hyundai will reprogram your sensor for free.
Which they have been doing. I think the class action suit specifies a
loaner car during the service. And nothing else that they weren't
already doing - there was a recall that updated the sensor software....
Robert Cohen - 31 Jan 2006 19:32 GMT
re: air bag phenomena

I am herein soliciting comment in light of  alleged problem with air
bag sensor in Elantras.

Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
had the green arrow).

The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.

The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.

If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).

Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.

Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?
Mike Marlow - 31 Jan 2006 20:20 GMT
> re: air bag phenomena
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?

You should not run around usenet trying to sound like a lawyer - or what you
think a lawyer would sound like.  Why don't you take your petty pursuits to
a web site, instead of here?

Signature

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Robert Cohen - 31 Jan 2006 23:27 GMT
re: lawyer shite

I asked a question, which has been on my mind for a coupla years.

It's really not that complex of a question.

I care for lawyers as much as I care for ...uh...nevermind.

BTW, how do you like your (apparent) arrangement with Hyundai, because
you too sound like you're acting like one.
Robert Cohen - 31 Jan 2006 23:36 GMT
>You should not run around usenet trying to sound like a lawyer - or what you
>think a lawyer would sound like.  Why don't you take your petty pursuits to
>a web site, instead of here?

Is the above an acceptable comment/suggestion for this generally
harmonious, polite news group?"

If I publicly flame/cuss-out this poster in this thread, could anybody
here blame me?
Screwtape III - 01 Feb 2006 23:25 GMT
> > You should not run around usenet trying to sound like a lawyer - or
> > what you think a lawyer would sound like.  Why don't you take your
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> If I publicly flame/cuss-out this poster in this thread, could anybody
> here blame me?

Robert, It's best to put on abestos underwear before posting to UseNet.
Also use good newsreader software that comes with a handy killfile
button for all the bozo's. <G>
Brian Nystrom - 01 Feb 2006 00:38 GMT
> re: air bag phenomena
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?

Unless the car was equipped with side impact-airbags (I don't think
they're available on the Accent), there shouldn't have been an airbag
deployment in a straight side impact. The frontal airbags do no good in
a side impact and they're designed not deploy in such a situation.

Seatbelts MUST be worn in airbag-equipped cars. Airbags are not called a
"SUPPLMENTAL Restraint System" for nothing. There are large, obnoxious
stickers on the visor to warm people of that and it's spelled out
clearly in the owner's manual. There's a friggin' annoying light on the
dash that warns you, too. How much notification do people need??? If the
driver was not wearing a seatbelt, it would improve the gene pool if the
accident prevents him/her from reproducing.
Bob - 01 Feb 2006 01:52 GMT
.....

> Seatbelts MUST be worn in airbag-equipped cars. Airbags are not called a
> "SUPPLMENTAL Restraint System" for nothing. There are large, obnoxious
> stickers on the visor to warm people of that and it's spelled out clearly
> in the owner's manual. There's a friggin' annoying light on the dash that
> warns you, too.

Annoying light???? The '06 Sonata has the most persistent, annoy you to
death buzzer system when you don't put on the seat belts that I have ever
heard in a car.

> How much notification do people need??? If the driver was not wearing a
> seatbelt, it would improve the gene pool if the accident prevents him/her
> from reproducing.
Robert Cohen - 01 Feb 2006 13:13 GMT
re: good answers, all

my inquiries have been addressed adequately

i subscribe to the n.g. sentiment about the legal profession, as a law
school dropout myself
Jody - 01 Feb 2006 18:48 GMT
is the person dead, or were they injured heavily? lil more info would help.
might not been hard enough hit to activate them....
> re: air bag phenomena
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?
Robert Cohen - 01 Feb 2006 22:46 GMT
re: person's wreck injury

happened approx two years ago: got banged on face, bled some, seems ok
now
Jody - 02 Feb 2006 00:38 GMT
sounds like it wassnt enough force to trigger the bags if thats the only
injuries that happened which is good.
whats there to sue about????
> re: person's wreck injury
>
> happened approx two years ago: got banged on face, bled some, seems ok
> now
Robert Cohen - 02 Feb 2006 14:42 GMT
re: wreck

Well, at the time I was unaware that the air bag popping-out itself
could be
such
a risk to an adult-sized person.

I've been angry (seething) that non-luxury American cars were minus
airbags.

What the helle is wrong with us?

It's one of my  reasons/appreciations for Hyundai.

I'd read about the things killing/injuring small children.

And I figured that's why Ford & GM were avoiding 'em in their compacts.

By asking the question I did, I was trying to elicit information about
the sensor system.

An Hyundai
service manager has been affirmed by the n.g., thank you.

Such is life. Such is death. Such is injury. Such is fool who doesn't
utilize seatbelt near home.
Bob - 02 Feb 2006 00:50 GMT
> re: person's wreck injury
>
> happened approx two years ago: got banged on face, bled some, seems ok
> now

Probably not hard enough. The air bag might have hurt more. How much damage
to car in $?
 
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