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Replacing old speedometer, how do I reset actual miles ??
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john.van.v@gmail.com - 24 May 2006 04:55 GMT My odometer has too few miles on it because the fuse for the speedometer kept blowing out -- it was a problem with the windshield wiper motor, which shares the fuse.
I want to reset the actual milage in case I have to bring the car in for engine warranty work.
How do I find the real miles, is that stored in the ECU ??
How do I reset the odometer ??
Thanks in advance, John
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hyundaitech - 24 May 2006 17:18 GMT It's illegal to tamper with an odometer. Huge, huge penalty.
How would the repair facility know the odometer hadn't been working and was incorrect?
Mike Marlow - 24 May 2006 17:21 GMT > It's illegal to tamper with an odometer. Huge, huge penalty. It is legal to have them corrected though. This allows for dash units to be used from salvage yards by insurance companies, etc.
> How would the repair facility know the odometer hadn't been working and > was incorrect? Precisely.
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Brian Nystrom - 24 May 2006 18:30 GMT >>It's illegal to tamper with an odometer. Huge, huge penalty. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Precisely. Besides which, it sounds like you've effectively extended your warranty by whatever miles weren't recorded. As the saying goes: "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth."
john.van.v@gmail.com - 25 May 2006 16:00 GMT yeah, I noticed !! <-- not ALL that honest
But, if you have every brought a car in for warranty work, you will find that the dealership will look for any opportunity to void it.
That is why I want to set it right, to protect the big investment, the engine.
Car goes 130 mph with seductive stability-- I am worried I will blow the motor. If do that, I will definately be wanting them to give me a new one.
That is why I would like to get the correct miles recorded, but I have no clue if that is stored anywhere.
I drive big diesel trucks for chump change now and again, since I am finishing my degree. Their ECUs have an amazing amount of data stored, though I am not sure they store miles.
The older tiburon is a very pretty car, prettiest available for any money, IMHO.
By way of history, my previous cars were a chevy cavalier and dodge omni and an old-school chevy nova. I drove them for all for about 3 cents a mile plus fuel.
In comparison, these cheap american cars were actually far better built, having forged steering components, for instance. All the parts where more generously built, bearings stronger; the cars were far more forgiving to abuse.
If anybody knows where the tiburon hides her mileage.... thanks again
Brian Nystrom - 25 May 2006 18:44 GMT > yeah, I noticed !! <-- not ALL that honest > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That is why I want to set it right, to protect the big investment, the > engine. How could they possibly know anything if you don't tell them?
> Car goes 130 mph with seductive stability-- I am worried I will blow > the motor. If do that, I will definately be wanting them to give me a > new one. Wait a minute here. You want "to protect the big investment", but you drive the car at 130 mph?! If that's the case, not only do you not deserve warranty coverage, but you don't deserve the privelege of driving a car! What the heck are you thinking??? Slow down before you kill someone!
> That is why I would like to get the correct miles recorded, but I have > no clue if that is stored anywhere. There's nothing you can do about it.
Eric G. - 25 May 2006 22:01 GMT Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in news:p2mdg.5954$nA2.4412 @trndny01:
> Wait a minute here. You want "to protect the big investment", but you > drive the car at 130 mph?! If that's the case, not only do you not > deserve warranty coverage, but you don't deserve the privelege of > driving a car! What the heck are you thinking??? Slow down before you > kill someone! I won't argue the priveledge to drive part, but the warranty? C'mon! Hyundai made a car that goes close to 140 MPH as a top speed without any modifications by the owner. Are you telling us that using the car as it was designed should void the warranty? That's like buying a computer that can process at 3.5 Ghz but only being allowed to use it at 1.0 Ghz.
Eric
nothermark - 26 May 2006 12:02 GMT >Snip<
>Wait a minute here. You want "to protect the big investment", but you >drive the car at 130 mph?! If that's the case, not only do you not >deserve warranty coverage, but you don't deserve the privelege of >driving a car! What the heck are you thinking??? Slow down before you >kill someone! Ever driven out west where it's really flat and a long way between places?
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Brian Nystrom - 26 May 2006 12:09 GMT >>Snip< > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ;-) Yes, I have. Nothing justifies driving 130 mph on public roads.
Eric G. - 26 May 2006 21:18 GMT Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in news:HlBdg.6390 $nA2.2305@trndny01:
>>>Snip< >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Yes, I have. Nothing justifies driving 130 mph on public roads. How about when you get a call at 2:00 AM that your premature baby, who is in the hospital, needs emergency life-or-death surgery and you need to be there NOW? And the hosptial is 45 minutes away at normal speeds?
It happened to me and I made the 45 minute trip in about 20 minutes. And that included the time it took to get pulled over at gun-point, explain my situation, and get an escort for the last 5 miles of the trip.
Yes, it really happened. And my daughter is 3 months old now and doing well.
Eric
Brian Nystrom - 26 May 2006 22:15 GMT > Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in news:HlBdg.6390 > $nA2.2305@trndny01: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Eric I'm glad to hear that you had a good outcome, but you could just as easily ended up in a smoking pile of wreckage on the side of the road. What would have happened to your daughter then? The smart move would have been to contact the authorities first.
Eric G. - 27 May 2006 00:18 GMT Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in news:HdKdg.680 $634.403@trndny06:
> I'm glad to hear that you had a good outcome, but you could just as > easily ended up in a smoking pile of wreckage on the side of the road. > What would have happened to your daughter then? The smart move would > have been to contact the authorities first. Thanks.
I tried contacting the local authorities first. My township told me to call the NJ State Police. I did that. They told me they could not help me. What I did after that was high-tail it myself. I had my wife leave in her own car with instructions to drive "normal" and I would call her as soon as I got there, so if one of us did wind up in a wreck, the other would make it.
I used to race in SCCA competition so I have some experience with high speeds. I don't condone doing something like that unless it is an absolute last resort. In my mind, it was for me.
Another time I was able to avoid driving like that for an emergency. My Father took some pills, then called me to say "Goodbye". I hopped in my car at work and headed towards his house like a maniac, but then I realized that even driving like that would take me 1/2 hour to get there. I then wised up and called HIS local Police, who kept me on the phone while they and the ambulance responded. Luckily he DIDN'T actually take the pills.
Anyway, my point is that I can see times when drivng that fast might be necessary. I won't lie and say I've never done it for fun either, but that usually happens on an open Interstate on a Sunday morning.
Why would they make cars that can go that fast?
Eric
Matt Whiting - 27 May 2006 00:24 GMT > Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in news:HdKdg.680 > $634.403@trndny06: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Why would they make cars that can go that fast? So they can climb hills and accelerate at a decent rate. If you sized the engine to have a top speed of 65 MPH, it would take you forever to get there and you'd be climbing hills at 15 MPH. The manufacturers can now limit speeds electronically and some cars do that. If idiots keep driving like you claim to, then the government will at some point make that decision for the car makers.
Matt
Eric G. - 27 May 2006 00:42 GMT > So they can climb hills and accelerate at a decent rate. If you sized > the engine to have a top speed of 65 MPH, it would take you forever to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Matt You talk like speed limiters are new. I seem to remember them being around, mechanical or electronic, for some time now :-)
I don't remember claiming to drive that fast on a regular basis. In fact, if anything I drive too slow on a regular basis. But you're right about the idiots. I see them day in and day out. I really don't see the government doing anything to the manufacturers. They make too much off the tickets to warrant that. They will probably implement more photo radar units. That way they can let the idiots drive as fast as they want and just mail them a ticket and make some money.
Eric
Matt Whiting - 27 May 2006 01:19 GMT >>So they can climb hills and accelerate at a decent rate. If you sized >>the engine to have a top speed of 65 MPH, it would take you forever to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > units. That way they can let the idiots drive as fast as they want and > just mail them a ticket and make some money. OK, but I thought you were the one talking pretty cavalierly about driving 130 MPH on public roads. Maybe I got you confused with another poster.
Matt
Eric G. - 27 May 2006 01:30 GMT
>> I don't remember claiming to drive that fast on a regular basis. In >> fact, if anything I drive too slow on a regular basis. But you're [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Matt No, Matt, you confused me with the OP.
Eric
Matt Whiting - 27 May 2006 01:32 GMT > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > No, Matt, you confused me with the OP. I'm glad to hear that.
Matt
Bob Adkins - 28 May 2006 14:59 GMT >>>driving 130 MPH on public roads. Maybe I got you confused with >>>another poster. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >I'm glad to hear that. So Matt, why in hell do you drive 130mph? Explain yourself!!!
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Matt Whiting - 28 May 2006 18:43 GMT >>>>driving 130 MPH on public roads. Maybe I got you confused with >>>>another poster. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > So Matt, why in hell do you drive 130mph? Explain yourself!!! I don't. Where did you get that idea?
Matt
Bob Adkins - 28 May 2006 14:57 GMT >If idiots keep driving like you claim to, then the government will at some point make >that decision for the car makers. We should treasure our idiots that take risks. We are a nation of descendants of risk-taking idiots.
I do not condone driving 130mph, but I defend anyone's right to do it... safely, on empty roads, of course. The Government has no right to protect us from our own stupidity, because the Government is more stupid than us.
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Matt Whiting - 28 May 2006 18:42 GMT >>If idiots keep driving like you claim to, then the government will at some point make >>that decision for the car makers. > > We should treasure our idiots that take risks. We are a nation of > descendants of risk-taking idiots. I'm not at all against taking risks. I ride motorcycles, fly airplanes, etc. It is wantonly placing others at risk that I object to and which is what was described here. You are confusing taking risks with being stupid.
> I do not condone driving 130mph, but I defend anyone's right to do it... > safely, on empty roads, of course. The Government has no right to protect > us from our own stupidity, because the Government is more stupid than us. Replace road above with track and I'm with you 100%.
Matt
Matt Whiting - 27 May 2006 00:18 GMT >> Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in news:HlBdg.6390 >> $nA2.2305@trndny01: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > I'm glad to hear that you had a good outcome, but you could just as > easily ended up in a smoking pile of wreckage on the side of the road. ... having killed a family of six on the process. Driving like that was simply stupid.
Matt
Eric G. - 27 May 2006 00:26 GMT >> I'm glad to hear that you had a good outcome, but you could just as >> easily ended up in a smoking pile of wreckage on the side of the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Matt Thanks again for your opinion. I would like to see what you would do in the same situation, but I don't wish that on anyone. But I can tell you that, with 99.9% confidence, you wouldn't do what you say you would do.
And I never did say it was smart. It was a last resort.
Eric
Matt Whiting - 27 May 2006 01:18 GMT >>>I'm glad to hear that you had a good outcome, but you could just as >>>easily ended up in a smoking pile of wreckage on the side of the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > And I never did say it was smart. It was a last resort. Actually, I've been in similar situations several times. Not identical, but similar. I worked as a logger for 5 years and made a few runs with victims of some nasty injuries (ever see what a chainsaw does to a limb?). I drove briskly, but rarely much exceeded the speed limit. And often the drive was an hour of dirt roads.
As an ambulance driver once told me, it doesn't do much good if you create a second accident while leaving the scene of the original accident.
Matt
Eric G. - 27 May 2006 01:29 GMT >> Thanks again for your opinion. I would like to see what you would do >> in the same situation, but I don't wish that on anyone. But I can [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > create a second accident while leaving the scene of the original > accident. Let me know how you make out when it is YOUR wife or child. I was an EMT in the late 80's myself. I never drove like that with anyone in my bus.
All I can say is you have no idea how you would react. And I hope you never have to.
Eric
Bob Adkins - 28 May 2006 15:11 GMT >Let me know how you make out when it is YOUR wife or child. I was an EMT >in the late 80's myself. I never drove like that with anyone in my bus. > >All I can say is you have no idea how you would react. And I hope you >never have to. I was an EMT back in the day when speed was the main lifesaving tool. We drove sleek, powerful station wagons and converted hurst's. We used to cross the Lake Pontchatrain causeway in as little as 15 minutes. We saved many lives, and nobody was ever hurt.
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Matt Whiting - 27 May 2006 00:17 GMT > Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in news:HlBdg.6390 > $nA2.2305@trndny01: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Yes, it really happened. And my daughter is 3 months old now and doing > well. You performed surgery on your own daughter? I didn't realize you were a surgeon.
Matt
Eric G. - 27 May 2006 00:23 GMT Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in news:G0Mdg.9021$lb.820250 @news1.epix.net:
> You performed surgery on your own daughter? I didn't realize you were a > surgeon. > > Matt Ha! Far from it. They won't do it without a parent/guardian present on a baby. Even emergent care. They did intubate her without us, and also did a minor surgery to insert a central line, but further than that was not allowed at the hospital she was in without us. And that is even with a verbal on the phone from us to go ahead.
Eric
Bob Adkins - 28 May 2006 14:48 GMT >Yes, I have. Nothing justifies driving 130 mph on public roads. For those of us who are too CHICKEN (or too sensible) to open up the car, here is a nice little movie of an 06 Hyundai Sonata running from 0-133mph.
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Matt Whiting - 28 May 2006 18:40 GMT >>Yes, I have. Nothing justifies driving 130 mph on public roads. > > For those of us who are too CHICKEN (or too sensible) to open up the car, > here is a nice little movie of an 06 Hyundai Sonata running from 0-133mph. I fall into the second camp, but on a track it would be a hoot. Any idea which model Sonata this was? It seemed to accelerate too fast above 100 MPH to be a 4 cylinder, yet the shifting sounded like it was a standard shift, which isn't available with the V-6.
Matt
Bob Adkins - 28 May 2006 19:14 GMT >I fall into the second camp, but on a track it would be a hoot. Any >idea which model Sonata this was? It seemed to accelerate too fast >above 100 MPH to be a 4 cylinder, yet the shifting sounded like it was a >standard shift, which isn't available with the V-6. Ya, it was an 06 LX, with about 1500 on the odometer. I love the engine sound. The tranny sounds a lot better in that movie than it actually is. It sounds like it's shifting crisply, but that's deceptive.
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Matt Whiting - 29 May 2006 02:34 GMT >>I fall into the second camp, but on a track it would be a hoot. Any >>idea which model Sonata this was? It seemed to accelerate too fast [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > sound. The tranny sounds a lot better in that movie than it actually is. It > sounds like it's shifting crisply, but that's deceptive. Yes, I test drove a couple of V-6s and even shifting the auto in the manual mode it didn't sound like the one in the video which is what I was wondering about. Now, my 4 cylinder does sound more like that if I shift at 6 grand. :-)
Matt
Zotto - 28 May 2006 20:26 GMT My Sonata 2.7 V6 automatic 0-100 Km/h here
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2169141184193809467&q=hyundai+sonata
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Eric G. - 29 May 2006 00:04 GMT >>>Yes, I have. Nothing justifies driving 130 mph on public roads. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Matt It was a V6. With the pedal floored, it does sound a bit like a manual shift. Even more so if they were using the "manumatic" or whatever Hyundai calls it.
Eric
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