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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / June 2006

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Rusted Axil Bolts

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sassycat - 25 Jun 2006 11:20 GMT
I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
lost control of my steering power.  The a-frame of my car went left and the
body of my car went right.  The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through.  I had no
control of the car.  Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas?  The wrecker service
said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
serious injury.  I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
home.  This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
through.  In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
Has this happened to anyone else?  Although I was unable to move my car after
this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work.  When I tried
to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
car off.
Mike Marlow - 25 Jun 2006 12:01 GMT
> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
> lost control of my steering power.  The a-frame of my car went left and the
> body of my car went right.  The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through.  I had no
> control of the car.  Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas?

No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event.  If it were
typical, it would be big news.

> The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury.  I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
> home.  This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
> through.

Of course it's dangerous.  Why did it happen?  Who knows.  Sometimes very
rare things happen.

> In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else?  Although I was unable to move my car after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work.  When I tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.

No gears?  Not sure what you mean by this.  If you mean that you couldn't
move the shift lever, I'm not surprised.  A drop to the road like this would
quite likely result in some sort of damage to linkages, etc.

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Screwtape III - 25 Jun 2006 19:41 GMT
> No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event.  If it were
> typical, it would be big news.
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> like this would quite likely result in some sort of damage to
> linkages, etc.

I had something similar happen to a 1979 Fiat Strada when it was 3
years old.  You don't see very many Strada's on the road these days...
hyundaitech - 26 Jun 2006 22:45 GMT
Most likely, the axle pulled out of the transmission or the inner cv joint
pulled apart.
Matt Whiting - 25 Jun 2006 13:34 GMT
> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
> lost control of my steering power.  The a-frame of my car went left and the
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.

Where do you live?  Near the coast?  In an area that applies lots of
salt to the roads in the winter?  Is your garage heated (this isn't good
for cars driven in winter weather)?

I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
so far.

Matt
Eric G. - 25 Jun 2006 17:13 GMT
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>> highway and lost control of my steering power.  The a-frame of my car
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Matt

Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
Winter?  Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
doesn't it?

Eric
Matt Whiting - 25 Jun 2006 19:06 GMT
>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>highway and lost control of my steering power.  The a-frame of my car
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Winter?  Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
> doesn't it?

Ice doesn't rust metal nearly as fast as water and salt that is encased
in ice rusts at a slower rate than salt water.

It is better to leave a snow and ice and salt covered car out in the
cold than the bring it in and warm up the ice and snow and salt and form
a nice solution to rust the car.

Matt
nothermark - 25 Jun 2006 20:37 GMT
>>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>>highway and lost control of my steering power.  The a-frame of my car
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
>Matt

Ditto - almost - I know that in upstate NY out attached garage is just
warm enough to melt the snow down to a nice brine.  I expect a really
heated garage would then evaporate the brine down to salt.  Brine is
the problem.

;-)
Mike Marlow - 27 Jun 2006 00:51 GMT
> Ditto - almost - I know that in upstate NY out attached garage is just
> warm enough to melt the snow down to a nice brine.  I expect a really
> heated garage would then evaporate the brine down to salt.  Brine is
> the problem.

Where in upstate?

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nothermark - 27 Jun 2006 22:11 GMT
>> Ditto - almost - I know that in upstate NY out attached garage is just
>> warm enough to melt the snow down to a nice brine.  I expect a really
>> heated garage would then evaporate the brine down to salt.  Brine is
>> the problem.
>
>Where in upstate?

down the road fro you - roughly rochester
sassycat - 26 Jun 2006 17:20 GMT
Matt,

I live in Indiana and yes they do at times have to apply lots of salt to the
roads but as well I wash my car often.  My garage is not heated but it would
be warmer than sitting outside in the elements.  I'm not quite sure what you
mean by more to this story than I am telling you.  I had not had any
indication previous to this happening that there was something wrong with my
car.  It was only minutes before it happened that I felt a pull to the right
on my steering wheel that something was not right.  My first thought was that
the allignment  was off but it was also pouring down rain at the time and
there was ponding on the highway.  I'm not sure what else I can tell you, I
didn't realize there was a problem until it happened.

Mitzi

>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
>> lost control of my steering power.  The a-frame of my car went left and the
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Matt
Matt Whiting - 26 Jun 2006 22:59 GMT
> Matt,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> there was ponding on the highway.  I'm not sure what else I can tell you, I
> didn't realize there was a problem until it happened.

I meant things like how many miles are on the car.  I've seen 99 cars
with 300,000 miles with 200,000 of those on salty NY or PA roads.  If
you wash your car often in the winter with salt on the roads, this is
NOT good for it.  Adding water to the salt is a recipe for rust.

Matt
Mike Marlow - 27 Jun 2006 01:00 GMT
> I meant things like how many miles are on the car.  I've seen 99 cars
> with 300,000 miles with 200,000 of those on salty NY or PA roads.  If
> you wash your car often in the winter with salt on the roads, this is
> NOT good for it.  Adding water to the salt is a recipe for rust.

This was much more true in years past than it is now.  Seldom do you see
much rust on cars even in NY where we use a lot of salt.  Galvanized metals
and plastic fender liners have done much to make those problems more of a
thing of the past.  We wash our cars regularly all winter long and we don't
suffer major rust problems.  If we didn't wash our cars in the winter we'd
all be driving white cars.  Today, the fears of heated garages, washing,
etc. are a non-entity.  My garage is heated and we've never had a car suffer
any advanced rust problems.

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Brian Nystrom - 25 Jun 2006 14:00 GMT
Sounds like a fluke to me.
Screwtape III - 25 Jun 2006 19:39 GMT
> I was driving my 1999 Sanota

What's a Sanota?
Matt Whiting - 25 Jun 2006 21:45 GMT
>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota
>
> What's a Sanota?

And what is an Axil bolt?

Matt
Deck - 27 Jun 2006 00:10 GMT
Axil bolts come on Sanotas, sometime they rust.
 
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