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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / August 2006New Hyundai MUSCLE CAR !!!!!!
Read an article in out newspaper yesterday that Hyundai is coming out with a new " Muscle Car With REAR WHEEL DRIVE " they are also coming out with a convertable and a pick-up that will be similar to the Toyota Ridgeline no other info was given and no dates were given...Hmmmmmmm Rear Wheel drive Muscle Car !!!! This should be interesting. Tunez > Read an article in out newspaper yesterday that Hyundai is coming out > with a new " Muscle Car With REAR WHEEL DRIVE " they are also coming [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tunez Sounds like BS to me. Can you mention the name of the newspaper please? Eric The word I have from some employees of Hyundai Motor America is that Hyundai's next version of the Tiburon will have rear drive and a V8. As with all things, we'll see when it gets here. > The word I have from some employees of Hyundai Motor America is that > Hyundai's next version of the Tiburon will have rear drive and a V8. As > with all things, we'll see when it gets here. Very surprising!! Thanks for the information. Eric Found this: http://car-reviews.automobile.com/news/hyundai-confirms-development-of-rear-whee l-drive-sports-car/1239/  SignatureZotto V6 Sonica driver http://www.g2kweb.it/gigio2k/gallery.asp?gallery_dir=Upload/salvati/zotto/Zottomobile > Found this: > > http://car-reviews.automobile.com/news/hyundai-confirms-development-of-rear-whee l-drive-sports-car/1239/ Hmmm. It should be out right around the time that gas prices hit $4.00/gallon. Yeah, that's just what we need! > > Found this: http://car-reviews.automobile.com/news/hyundai-confirms-development-of-rear-whee l-drive-sports-car/1239/ > Hmmm. It should be out right around the time that gas prices hit > $4.00/gallon. Yeah, that's just what we need! Nah, the republicans are just about out of office again. I'll bet that in 3-4 years, gas prices will be around $2/gal >>>Found this: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Nah, the republicans are just about out of office again. I'll bet that in > 3-4 years, gas prices will be around $2/gal I hope you are right, but unfortunately you aren't. Read "Twilight in the Desert" by Matt Simmons. Matt >>> Found this: >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Nah, the republicans are just about out of office again. I'll bet that in > 3-4 years, gas prices will be around $2/gal Now THAT'S funny! It won't matter who's in power in the US, the increasing demand from China and India is going to continue to drive the price of oil upward. The Middle East will probably never be stable, so there will always be a fear-factor to drive prices even higher. Cheap gas in not coming back and the sooner we accept that and start acting appropriately, the better. >> Hmmm. It should be out right around the time that gas prices hit >> $4.00/gallon. Yeah, that's just what we need! > >Nah, the republicans are just about out of office again. I'll bet that in >3-4 years, gas prices will be around $2/gal What are you, some kind of Kool Aid drinker? Oil prices are determined by supply and demand, not politics. Gasoline will never see $2.50 again, and will probably hit $4 within a year. SignatureBob >>> Hmmm. It should be out right around the time that gas prices hit >>> $4.00/gallon. Yeah, that's just what we need! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Gasoline will never see $2.50 again, and will probably hit $4 within a > year. While I think seeing anything in the $2 range is unlikely, I think you are a bit foolish if you think politics has nothing to do with oil prices. Eric >>>>Hmmm. It should be out right around the time that gas prices hit >>>>$4.00/gallon. Yeah, that's just what we need! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > While I think seeing anything in the $2 range is unlikely, I think you are > a bit foolish if you think politics has nothing to do with oil prices. Global politics does, but it doesn't make a damn bit of difference what party is in power here in the states. >>>>>Hmmm. It should be out right around the time that gas prices hit >>>>>$4.00/gallon. Yeah, that's just what we need! [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Global politics does, but it doesn't make a damn bit of difference > what party is in power here in the states. You don't find it a bit coincidental that Exxon-Mobil and other oil compaies make record profits when Republicans are in office domestically? The same republicans who are heavily invested in the oil companies? I guess it could just be coincidence... Eric >You don't find it a bit coincidental that Exxon-Mobil and other oil >compaies make record profits when Republicans are in office >domestically? The same republicans who are heavily invested in the oil >companies? I guess it could just be coincidence... You make 10% profit sound as though it should be illegal. Keep in mind the record profits are in DOLLARS, not PERCENTAGE. Exxon-Mobil is a growing company, and will keep breaking records as they grow. SignatureBob >>You don't find it a bit coincidental that Exxon-Mobil and other oil >>compaies make record profits when Republicans are in office [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the record profits are in DOLLARS, not PERCENTAGE. Exxon-Mobil is a > growing company, and will keep breaking records as they grow. Yes, very, very good news for the stock holders. Now, if only the same stock holders would buy some shares in corn, soy, field grass or whatever other possible form of potential energy, maybe things would be a bit different. Maybe I am just jealous. Man, if only I could find a finite energy source that could run or help make just about everything in the world. I guess being wealthy beyond my wildest dreams just wouldn't be enough for me either. Eric >>>>>>Hmmm. It should be out right around the time that gas prices hit >>>>>>$4.00/gallon. Yeah, that's just what we need! [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > domestically? The same republicans who are heavily invested in the oil > companies? I guess it could just be coincidence... The oil companies are making record profits because high demand and an unstable middle-east (nothing new there) have combined to drive the price of crude through the roof. One could reasonably argue that our foreign policy is partly to blame, but please spare me the silly conspiracy theories. Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in news:mg9Cg.6806$Jg1.1355 @trndny05: > The oil companies are making record profits because high demand and an > unstable middle-east (nothing new there) have combined to drive the > price of crude through the roof. One could reasonably argue that our > foreign policy is partly to blame, but please spare me the silly > conspiracy theories. What does the price of crude oil have to do with the profit that the oil companies are making? You're comparing apples and oranges now. Eric > Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in news:mg9Cg.6806$Jg1.1355 > @trndny05: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > What does the price of crude oil have to do with the profit that the oil > companies are making? You're comparing apples and oranges now. Are you kidding me? The oil companies pump it out of the ground and sell it on the futures market. There is actually very little profit in selling the refined products. How do YOU think they make their money? >> Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in >> news:mg9Cg.6806$Jg1.1355 @trndny05: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > sell it on the futures market. There is actually very little profit in > selling the refined products. How do YOU think they make their money? I think you are pulling my leg. The gasoline futures price has not been above $2.24/gal. Considering that I don't know a single gas station owner making more than $0.01 on a gallon of regular (they don't make much more on mid-grade or premium either), where does all the rest go? Some to transportation, sure, but $0.75/gal.? I don't think so. Before Katrina hit the "markup" between the futures price and the street price averaged $0.30/gal. Since then it is $0.70-$0.80/gal. Gee, I wonder where all the extra profit comes from. Eric >>>Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in >>>news:mg9Cg.6806$Jg1.1355 @trndny05: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Eric > OIL FUTURES >> I think you are pulling my leg. The gasoline futures price has not >> been above $2.24/gal. Considering that I don't know a single gas [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > OIL FUTURES NO, GREEDY OIL COMPANIES AND THEIR STOCKHOLDERS. >NO, GREEDY OIL COMPANIES AND THEIR STOCKHOLDERS. Come on Eric, Exxon-Mobil made 10% profit on billions they risked. I own stock in E-M, and I'm by no means rich. SignatureBob >>>>>>Hmmm. It should be out right around the time that gas prices hit >>>>>>$4.00/gallon. Yeah, that's just what we need! [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Eric No, it's a business model based on a fixed percentage return. The higher the cost of the product the higher the value of the fixed percentage. Not rocket science or politics but "normal" pricing structure for most of what we buy. The only politics is the folks whining about gross profits as a politcal whine. They conveniently ignore why the numbers are what they are and focus on the numbers alone. > No, it's a business model based on a fixed percentage return. The > higher the cost of the product the higher the value of the fixed [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ignore why the numbers are what they are and focus on the numbers > alone. Ah, now you hit the nail on the head. Fixed percentages. So at $1/gal. they make $0.20 and at $4/gal. they make $0.80. Seems fair. Especially when you consider the government regualtion on other "commodities" like MILK, CORN, SOY, where the profit is a fixed $$ amount per unit, not a percentage. Why is that? Eric >>No, it's a business model based on a fixed percentage return. The >>higher the cost of the product the higher the value of the fixed [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > MILK, CORN, SOY, where the profit is a fixed $$ amount per unit, not a > percentage. Why is that? Because the government isn't too bright collectively. I'm not saying that smart people don't work for the government, but the collective wisdom seems to be lacking. Matt >Because the government isn't too bright collectively. I'm not saying >that smart people don't work for the government, but the collective >wisdom seems to be lacking. You're way too kind Matt! SignatureBob >>No, it's a business model based on a fixed percentage return. The >>higher the cost of the product the higher the value of the fixed [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Ah, now you hit the nail on the head. Fixed percentages. So at $1/gal. > they make $0.20 and at $4/gal. they make $0.80. Seems fair. That's the gist of it, but the actual margins are considerably lower than that, more along the lines of 10%. YUP It was The Las Vegas Review Journal The Friday morning edtion, the Driving section Tunes >> Read an article in out newspaper yesterday that Hyundai is coming out >> with a new " Muscle Car With REAR WHEEL DRIVE " they are also coming [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Eric |
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