> Your car has gone into some sort of power management mode. Whatever it
> saw
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> power management. Even so, you'll still need to trek to the dealer to
> pick it up.
I don't know if this will help, but yesterday I was at a Hyundai dealership
and out of the blue the salesperson started telling me that if the check
engine light comes on, be sure to check that the gas cap is closed all the
way until you hear it click. He said people see the check engine light and
bring it someplace to be fixed and sometimes end up with the wrong work
being done on the vehicle when it was just the check engine light sensing
the gas cap not being tightened correctly. He said something about the
vacuum which didn't sound logical to me, but I guess they have seen this
come up and he wanted to let me know about it. Maybe it was BS, but that's
what he said to check if the light comes on and you don't know why.
>> Your car has gone into some sort of power management mode. Whatever it
>> saw
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>
> KW
Mike Marlow - 19 Oct 2006 22:11 GMT
> I don't know if this will help, but yesterday I was at a Hyundai dealership
> and out of the blue the salesperson started telling me that if the check
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> come up and he wanted to let me know about it. Maybe it was BS, but that's
> what he said to check if the light comes on and you don't know why.
It's not BS - it happens on all cars today. It does not result in the OP's
symptoms though. It causes nothing more than the CEL to come on.

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BETA-2K - 19 Oct 2006 22:45 GMT
> It's not BS - it happens on all cars today. It does not result in the
> OP's
> symptoms though. It causes nothing more than the CEL to come on.
Good to know. Thanks.
Edwin Pawlowski - 20 Oct 2006 03:36 GMT
>I don't know if this will help, but yesterday I was at a Hyundai dealership
>and out of the blue the salesperson started telling me that if the check
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>come up and he wanted to let me know about it. Maybe it was BS, but that's
>what he said to check if the light comes on and you don't know why.
No, it is accurate. I did not know it a few years back.
On my '97 LeSabre it came on shortly after getting gas at a full serive
station. Great feeling when you still have 250 miles to travel to get to
your vacation destination. I had, at the time, no idea why it went on but
after a couple of days, it stopped. Meantime, the car seemed OK, but I was
concerned. I was tepmted to stop at a dealer to have them read the code but
since the car was running OK, I did not.
On my '01 LeSabre, the DIC reads ot "Gas Cap Loose" so you know. They after
you tightent he cap, it takes about 10 cycles of starting to have it go out
again (after you tighten the cap) At least I knew what the deal was when
that happened.
I can see an unscrupulous shop making a quick $500 to tighten the cap for
the unsuspecting.
BETA-2K - 20 Oct 2006 14:23 GMT
> No, it is accurate. I did not know it a few years back.
>
> On my '97 LeSabre it came on shortly after getting gas at a full serive
> station. . . . .,
Interesting. I am curious what the issue is that makes them want to monitor
the gas cap. The salesperson said it needs to make a seal so it can create
a vacuum in the gas tank. If that's true, I'm sure there's a good reason.
But I would think that a vacuum would be something that would not be good to
have.
I thought maybe it's a safety feature designed to keep gas from leaking out
if the vehicle is overturned in an MVA.
Mike Marlow - 20 Oct 2006 16:01 GMT
> > No, it is accurate. I did not know it a few years back.
> >
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> I thought maybe it's a safety feature designed to keep gas from leaking out
> if the vehicle is overturned in an MVA.
It's about pressure, not vacuum. DAGS and you will find quite a bit about
this. It's a factor on all of today's cars.

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Eric G. - 20 Oct 2006 20:44 GMT
> It's about pressure, not vacuum. DAGS and you will find quite a bit
> about this. It's a factor on all of today's cars.
DAGS...nice one...not heard that before but it sure saves a lot of time.
sqdancerLynn - 27 Oct 2006 02:40 GMT
The body computer tests the emission system on a regular bases IF it
detects a vacuum leak The CEL light will come on. Another thing When
filling with gas DO NOT OVER FILL THE TANK putting that extra $1 worth of
gas into the tank can get very expensive if gas gets into the purge
canister or another part of the evap emission system