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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / April 2007

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Is a Water Pump considered part of the 100 k. Driveline Warranty    ???

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Dave in Lake Villa - 10 Apr 2007 21:57 GMT
Or, does the water pump fall into the 5 years/50 k. mile Bumper to
Bumper warranty ?  If it falls into the latter, how much sense does it
make to replace the water pump at the same time the mechanic does the
scheduled Timing Belt replacement ?  Thanks.
Ken - 10 Apr 2007 22:55 GMT
On Apr 10, 1:57 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa)
wrote:
> Or, does the water pump fall into the 5 years/50 k. mile Bumper to
> Bumper warranty ?  If it falls into the latter, how much sense does it
> make to replace the water pump at the same time the mechanic does the
> scheduled Timing Belt replacement ?  Thanks.

Make up your mind, Dimwit...
How does a 100K Driveline Warranty become a 5/50 B2B Warranty in the
next line?
And how cum you can't change your own timing belt, Lamo?
Rob - 10 Apr 2007 23:15 GMT
> On Apr 10, 1:57 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa)
> wrote:
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> next line?
> And how cum you can't change your own timing belt, Lamo?

 Thanks for your help...now leave.
Tom - 11 Apr 2007 14:54 GMT
Where in the world did this 'Ken' character come from?  This has been a
suprisingly civil user group compared to most and along comes this fool with
the nasty comments.

>> On Apr 10, 1:57 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa)
>> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>  Thanks for your help...now leave.
Ken - 11 Apr 2007 16:22 GMT
> Where in the world did this 'Ken' character come from?  This has been a
> suprisingly civil user group compared to most and along comes this fool with
> the nasty comments.

Dude! Speaking of Fools and unwelcome comments,you could just as well
could be axing where Dave has come from and where he usually hangs out
Google up any of his many webtv nics for a seclection of his posts in
swinger, abortion, divorce, marriage, and dating where he is just as
unwelcome as I am in here

Fast1970vette @webtv.net
godisnumberouno @webtv.net
countercultureman @webtv.net
advicegiver4U @webtv.net
itisdave @webtv.net
daveinillinois @webtv.net
HVACfella @webtv.net
DNandB @webtv.net
MsMaryPoppinhs @webtv.net
filthpollice @webtv.net
decencyadvocate @webtv.net
hyundaitech - 11 Apr 2007 17:32 GMT
Since I don't go to any of those other places, I don't care what he posts
there.  I only care what he posts here.  

If you don't like what Dave posts there, you should go *there* to bother
him, not here.  By posting this here, Ken, you're the one being rude.  And
that's why it was suggested that we'd rather not hear from you.  Of course,
if you posted something germane to the thread, I doubt there'd be any
conflict over that.

Dave is polite and considerate with the vast majority of what he posts
here.  All of us should strongly consider following that behavior.
Brian Nystrom - 11 Apr 2007 18:44 GMT
>> Where in the world did this 'Ken' character come from?  This has been a
>> suprisingly civil user group compared to most and along comes this fool with
>> the nasty comments.
>
> Dude! Speaking of Fools and unwelcome comments,you could just as well
> could be axing where Dave has come from and where he usually hangs out
<pointless drivel snipped>

If you followed Dave here just to harass him, take a hike! This is a
forum for Hyundai owners or drivers. If you have no interests in Hyundai
cars or anything useful to contribute, get lost. We don't need your
"help" to determine whether a post is pertinent or not. If you get so
riled up about the goings-on on Usenet forums that you actually pursue
some from group to group, perhaps you need to re-evaluate the priorities
in your life...or get a life, for that matter.
Matt Whiting - 11 Apr 2007 21:52 GMT
>> Where in the world did this 'Ken' character come from?  This has been a
>> suprisingly civil user group compared to most and along comes this fool with
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> swinger, abortion, divorce, marriage, and dating where he is just as
> unwelcome as I am in here

Axing?  Rude and illiterate all in one.
Sue - 12 Apr 2007 03:58 GMT
> >> Where in the world did this 'Ken' character come from?  This has been a
> >> suprisingly civil user group compared to most and along comes this fool with
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Axing?  Rude and illiterate all in one.

Your group's fortunate we all don't follow Dave into here
He has quite an unwelcome history of annoying many people in many
places

Sue
Mike Marlow - 12 Apr 2007 10:56 GMT
> > >> Where in the world did this 'Ken' character come from?  This has been a
> > >> suprisingly civil user group compared to most and along comes this fool with
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Sue

So do the people who follow him into places like this and carry on their
little battles.  Please do us a favor and keep your issues with this guy to
yourselves.  We don't need public defenders.  If Dave proves to be
problematic, we'll get through it without the help of a bunch of people
chasing him around.  If he doesn't, we won't have an issue to worry about.
Once you guys follow him here and start your stuff up, we have a problematic
situation and the problem is you, not Dave.

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Brian Nystrom - 12 Apr 2007 11:51 GMT
>>>> Where in the world did this 'Ken' character come from?  This has been a
>>>> suprisingly civil user group compared to most and along comes this fool with
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> He has quite an unwelcome history of annoying many people in many
> places

What do you think you are, "Internet vigilantes" or something? Is there
 a band of you bouncing from forum to forum, "saving" the web from
Dave? How ridiculously childish is THAT!? Are your lives so empty that
you have nothing better to do? Like it or not, there will always be
people in the world that irritate you. Get over it, get a hobby, but at
least get out of here. We don't need or want you.
Dave in Lake Villa - 12 Apr 2007 13:40 GMT
Thanks for the info on the water pump with timing belt replacement.

Sorry this NG had to be inundated with my 'fan club' of Internet
Stalkers ;  some people will go to great malicious lengths if your
beliefs are vastly different than theirs are.
Sue - 12 Apr 2007 15:50 GMT
We don't need or want you.

Just like we don't want or need Dave in the uk.dating groups, spouting
his religious rhetoric on a daily basis. You're lucky he needs your
motorcar help and isn't here to "convert" you

Sue
Eric G. - 12 Apr 2007 23:21 GMT
"Sue" <shaggdolly@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:1176389423.425935.178110
@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

>  We don't need or want you.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Sue

Is he doing something illegal?  If so, report him to his ISP and let them
take care of it.  If not, then almost every newsgroup reader I have ever
used has some type of kill-file option.  Just add him to yours and you'll
never hear from him again.  It is so simple to do.

Following him around and bad-mouthing him in other places is just plain
childish and stupid.  You act no better than what you claim he is doing,
and in fact, you are probably even worse.

Eric
Ken - 12 Apr 2007 23:57 GMT
> "Sue" <shaggdo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:1176389423.425935.178110
> @y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Eric

Well Eric,   Here are examples of how Dave makes himself unwelcome and
all the excuses he uses for himself in doing so
So should I and others use his same twisted logic to start flooding
this group with nonsense?
Nope, because I really don't think that would be appreciated, just as
Dave isn't appreciated where he repeatedly spouts off, but THAT has
NEVER stopped him..K

DAVE'S REPLY:  I AM an american citizen..as of 1976 .
alt.datingUK.north-west
is on my webtv menu which i pay $24.95 per month for ...so....yes, i
should be entitled to coming to the NG.  And..all others on my menu,
whenever I want to, and as often as i want to.

DAVE"S REPLY:  Grossly incorrect.  I address the culture issues of
today which
should be everyones business and concern ,  and proceed to show in a
concise manner why The Bible is scientifically true , historically
true,
true pychologically, and true what it says about mankind from 4000
b.c.
to 2007 a.d.    I especially elaborate on how The Bible shows willful
ignorance and suppression of God given moral conscience so  sexual
hedonism (societies favorite pastime) can be indulged upon  and why
its
important for such people to deny that a personal Creator exists who
owns them and whom they are responsible to so this sexual immorality
can
be exploited.

(Sure he SEEMS friendly at first)

DAVE'S REPLY:  If people dont wish to talk to me they have the option
of not
responding to me. I dont put anyone under duress .  What others call
'Fundy Trolling' , is really just an interest in me conducting a
ministry for which i have been called.

DAVE'S REPLY:  I dont 'incite' a flame war at all, since i dont know
how
Responders are going to respond ;  what i post may be perfectly ok to
such moral and wise people.  Besides, i cant control how people react
.. but i do have the right to post , freely, to NG's that appear on
my
webtv menu which i pay monthly for  .  And, i can post new threads,
answer old threads,  or fix torn threads on my jacket  if i so
desire ;
Eric G. - 13 Apr 2007 00:09 GMT
>> "Sue" <shaggdo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:1176389423.425935.178110
>> @y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Well Eric,   Here are examples of how Dave makes himself unwelcome and
> all the excuses he uses for himself in doing so

Ken, what exactly are you trying to prove to me by citing examples?  I
don't really give a hoot about what he writes in your precious group.  
In our group his behavior has been much more acceptable than yours.  If
he were to stray seriously off-thread, he would get called on it.  The
after a few infractions that pissed me off, I would add him to my kill-
file or confront him on it.  This isn't brain surgery.

> So should I and others use his same twisted logic to start flooding
> this group with nonsense?

You are already doing that, and no you shouldn't.  BUT YOU ALREADY KNOW
THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT DAVE DOING IT TO YOU.

> Nope, because I really don't think that would be appreciated, just as
> Dave isn't appreciated where he repeatedly spouts off, but THAT has
> NEVER stopped him..K

OK.  What does that have to do with THIS GROUP????  Maybe Dave is trying
to beat some sense into you since you seem to have a fairly thick skull
for understanding the obvious.

EXAMPLE:  My neighbors kid, Tommy, has been throwing rocks at a friends
house.  The friend went over and complained.  If Tommy's father told him
to go scratch, would it now be OK for my fried to throw rocks at Tommy's
house?  Now you've got me comparing rocks to WORDS!!!

Eric
Rob - 13 Apr 2007 00:30 GMT
Perhaps you should listen to Dave... He is only trying to help you. I'm sure
a lot of people here will be glad to show you how to put him in your "kill
file, ignore list, etc."

Rob

>> "Sue" <shaggdo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:1176389423.425935.178110
>> @y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
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> answer old threads,  or fix torn threads on my jacket  if i so
> desire ;
hyundaitech - 13 Apr 2007 01:22 GMT
If you'd like to post examples of Dave's posts, use posts from this
newsgroup.  Why don't you understand that we don't care what he posts
anywhere other than here?

On second thought, don't even dig up his posts from here.  By now, you've
shown your character well enough that I don't even care what you might
think.  

Should I now take your unwarranted attacks and harass you with them on
another newsgroup?  I didn't thinks so.  Come back when you'd like to
discuss Hyundais.
Brian Nystrom - 13 Apr 2007 01:36 GMT
Take your stupid, childish, pointless diatribe, stick it where the sun
don't shine and get out of here! We don't need your crap!
Mike Marlow - 13 Apr 2007 11:46 GMT
> Well Eric,   Here are examples of how Dave makes himself unwelcome and
> all the excuses he uses for himself in doing so

Examples?  So far the only example of flogging this group with unwanted and
irrelevant posts would be those of you who have tracked Dave here, and feel
the need to "warn us" about him.

> So should I and others use his same twisted logic to start flooding
> this group with nonsense?

You have.  So - since that is such a distasteful tactic to you, why do you
do it?  Simply take your fascination with Dave somewhere else, and trust
that we are fully capable of taking care of ourselves here, without your
pathetic excuses for chasing people around the net to continue your personal
little wars.

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Bob Adkins - 13 Apr 2007 13:47 GMT
>pathetic excuses for chasing people around the net to continue your personal
>little wars.

I think Ken is in love with Dave.  Why else would he be so obsessed
with him that he stalks him around the Internet?
-

Bob
Mike Marlow - 13 Apr 2007 18:21 GMT
> >pathetic excuses for chasing people around the net to continue your personal
> >little wars.
>
> I think Ken is in love with Dave.  Why else would he be so obsessed
> with him that he stalks him around the Internet?

Maybe Dave gave him the cold shoulder and Ken is now the spurned lover...

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Bob Adkins - 13 Apr 2007 13:45 GMT
>DAVE'S REPLY:  If people dont wish to talk to me they have the option
>of not
>responding to me. I dont put anyone under duress .  .....

Stick around Ken! We'll convert you to our religion and save your
soul!  Hang on there while we work up a good sermon especially for
you!
-

Bob
hyundaitech - 12 Apr 2007 23:47 GMT
So how is causing a problem here going to resolve your problem there?  What
you're doing now is no better than what you're accusing Dave of doing.
You've posted here for no reasons other than to harass Dave and try to
turn us against him.  We're big boys.  We can make our own judgments about
Dave.
Edwin Pawlowski - 11 Apr 2007 01:46 GMT
> Or, does the water pump fall into the 5 years/50 k. mile Bumper to
> Bumper warranty ?  If it falls into the latter, how much sense does it
> make to replace the water pump at the same time the mechanic does the
> scheduled Timing Belt replacement ?  Thanks.

Depends on your tolerance to pain.  If the water pump goes at 100,001 miles
you will pay for the same labor as just paid at the time of the timing belt
change.  If you have the pump replaced, you pay only for the part, maybe a
few $ for the extra labor, but not much.

I'd certainly consider it on the first change, I'd definitely do it at the
second belt change at 120K.
hyundaitech - 11 Apr 2007 01:51 GMT
Water pump is 10/100.  You shouldn't consider changing until due for the
second timing belt (unless you're not the original owner).
 
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