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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / April 2007

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Ru Tac - 26 Apr 2007 20:14 GMT
1998 Hyundai Elantra.  Suddenly with no warning lost reverse and all
forward drive over 35 mph.  Will pull forward but if you try to accelerate
it will act like in neutral.

Fluid level is good. No odd smell or discoloration to the fluid.

Any ideals will be greatly appreciated.

Rusty
Finn - 26 Apr 2007 20:57 GMT
Yep,  2500 for a new transmission,  mine did the same thing.

> 1998 Hyundai Elantra.  Suddenly with no warning lost reverse and all
> forward drive over 35 mph.  Will pull forward but if you try to accelerate
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>
> Rusty
Edwin Pawlowski - 26 Apr 2007 21:04 GMT
> 1998 Hyundai Elantra.  Suddenly with no warning lost reverse and all
> forward drive over 35 mph.

> Any ideals will be greatly appreciated.

Trade it in.  Park where they don't have to back up to evaluate the trade in
value.
Dave in Lake Villa - 27 Apr 2007 00:48 GMT
This is just a longshot, but, you didnt happen to put cardboard in front
of the radiator to make the heater work better, did you ?   Sure way to
cook the auto trans.
Ru Tac - 27 Apr 2007 01:14 GMT
> This is just a longshot, but, you didnt happen to put cardboard in front
> of the radiator to make the heater work better, did you ?   Sure way to
> cook the auto trans.

Nope never had to do anything to make it heat better.  Had the best heater
I've ever had. Have to crack the windows when using the defroster cause
otherwise it got too hot.  Temp guage was always less then half.

Thats what makes it so strange, no warning no slipping just quit.
Matt Whiting - 27 Apr 2007 04:03 GMT
>> This is just a longshot, but, you didnt happen to put cardboard in front
>> of the radiator to make the heater work better, did you ?   Sure way to
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>
> Thats what makes it so strange, no warning no slipping just quit.

Most likely a sensor failure.  It sounds like it is going into "limp"
mode.  Have the dealer check for any set codes.

Matt
Ru Tac - 27 Apr 2007 16:00 GMT
> Most likely a sensor failure.  It sounds like it is going into "limp"
> mode.  Have the dealer check for any set codes.
>
> Matt

I was curious if that could be a problem ie sensor failure or other
electrical problem.  Only dealer is 80 plus miles away. There is one
closer now but he has had them for about a month and has always had a F-
service dept. 30 plus miles away.

Just realized that I'd done a typo in another posting the I'll was
supposed to be I'd as in I would but I'm not holding my breath on it
working.  

I followed the cable check items in the online manual and it checked out
ok.

It was a run errends car. It's looking like replacement will be cheaper
then fixing. Oh well it was a cheapy to putter around in. I've gotten my
moneys worth out of it.

Hyundais are just starting to penetrate into this area so none of the
local wrecking yards have any thing for them. Local parts stores are
special order on all parts.
Edwin Pawlowski - 28 Apr 2007 01:34 GMT
>> Most likely a sensor failure.  It sounds like it is going into "limp"
>> mode.  Have the dealer check for any set codes.
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> closer now but he has had them for about a month and has always had a F-
> service dept. 30 plus miles away.

Why the dealer?  Do you have any reliable, honest local transmission shops?
This is not a warranty issue so you are free to go wherever you'd like.
Ru Tac - 26 Apr 2007 21:39 GMT
I was afraid that this was the answer I would get.  I'll try a filter
fluid change but I'm not holding my breath on it working.  

I was kind of hoping there was a fuse or something I didn't know about.
Since it has the OD and ECT.

Thanks
Rusty
hyundaitech - 27 Apr 2007 03:01 GMT
Not really worth trying the fluid/filter change.  It won't cause your
tranny to act the way it does.  You might check the shift cable and range
switch to be sure they're adjusted and working properly, however.  

But don't get your hopes up too high on that either.  Probably needs a
trans.
Ru Tac - 27 Apr 2007 03:37 GMT
> Not really worth trying the fluid/filter change.  It won't cause your
> tranny to act the way it does.  You might check the shift cable and range
> switch to be sure they're adjusted and working properly, however.  
>
> But don't get your hopes up too high on that either.  Probably needs a
> trans.

About the answer I was afraid of. I didn't think it would help to try the
filter.  

The car is a run about type has 100,568 miles on it so probably just wave
bye bye to it.  I bought it used with 76,000 miles, on the odometer, in
2002 for $1200. So I would say I've gotten my moneys worth out of it.

Thanks for the answers every one. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't
missing anything before I got rid of it.
Edwin Pawlowski - 27 Apr 2007 03:03 GMT
>I was afraid that this was the answer I would get.  I'll try a filter
> fluid change but I'm not holding my breath on it working.
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> Thanks
> Rusty

I applaud your optimism, but a fluid and filter change is probably pissing
money away.

It may, in fact, be something fairly simple but they seem to be rarities
with transmissions.   You may want to consider:
Used from a junk yard
Rebuilt from a mail-order house
Trading the car

Consider the condition, value, and anticipated longevity of the car and
determine how much you are willing to invest in it.  . If it is a creampuff,
fix it. If a clunker, it is time to let it go.
Matt Whiting - 27 Apr 2007 04:03 GMT
> I was afraid that this was the answer I would get.  I'll try a filter
> fluid change but I'm not holding my breath on it working.  

Why would you change the filter and fluid before you find out what is
wrong with the transmission?  Throwing parts at a problem is not a very
good diagnosis technique.

Matt
The Chris - 30 Apr 2007 21:31 GMT
> 1998 Hyundai Elantra.  Suddenly with no warning lost reverse and all
> forward drive over 35 mph.  Will pull forward but if you try to
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>
> Rusty

Read my Elantra 2000 thread :(
 
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