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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / July 20072004 Sonata question
I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change. My questions are this; 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic flush and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty? 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good brand/type of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me any tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand miles. 3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time as the tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this? Thanks to any and all help. Brian 1. Make sure your mechanic uses only SP-III fluid. Other than that, your mechanic needs only to not mess up the job. 2. Michelin tends to be good for treadwear (with the exception of the Energy MXV4+ you probably have on your car now). www.tirerack.com has a significant section with customer reviews. 3. Coolant service is straightforward. >1. Make sure your mechanic uses only SP-III fluid. Other than that, your >mechanic needs only to not mess up the job. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >3. Coolant service is straightforward. Thank You. Off hand, do you know which model Michelin I should ask for? Also, the coolant needs to be a certain type. One for an aluminum block. I read which coolant and Tranny fluid to use so I should be good. My mechanic is excellent. I've been going to him for 20 years, he gives me cheaper prices than the average customer because he knows he can count on me to come back. He also lets me into the garage to watch the work, something that's unheard of in this day and age. Again, thank you. It really is so nice of you to help people out, even with the simplest questions. Brian >1. Make sure your mechanic uses only SP-III fluid. Other than that, your >mechanic needs only to not mess up the job. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >3. Coolant service is straightforward. Additional; You hit it right on the head. The stock tires ARE "MXV4 Plus" but they don't say "Energy" anywhere on the tire. Brian I'm not much of an expert on tires. You'd probably do better speaking to someone at the tire store for specific recommnedations. >I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my > transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change. My > questions are this; > > 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic flush > and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty? I'm curious If your mechanic is so good and cheap, why do you go to the dealer? I've have that good mechanic take a look at the fluid to see if it really is dirty. Most are good for 50k or more with no problems. What is the interval suggested by Hyundai? Some shops try to push extra services you don't really need. > GUEST wrote > I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said m > transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change M > questions are this > > 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechani flus > and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty > > 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had the > rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a goo brand/typ > of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get m an > tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousan > miles > > 3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time a th > tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this > > Thanks to any and all help > > Bria I think your dealer is lying and trying to make extr money from a sucker. The manual says 100,000 for transmission oi change. If your oil is dirty at 30,000 miles, the transmission ha problems and should be replaced under warranty. Call Hyundai Americ and report this crooked dealer Difference in dealers here I believe. My Hyundai shop recommends a tranny flush every 30k miles. Just had one done on the wife's Nissan/Mercury mini-van, $120 parts/labor/tax. My 06 Sonata LX will get the same at 30k... Steve  SignatureNW AZ home for sale in growing area- http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rfs/370324491.html http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/383472.html > > GUEST wrote: > > I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > problems and should be replaced under warranty. Call Hyundai America > and report this crooked dealer. > Difference in dealers here I believe. My Hyundai shop recommends a tranny > flush every 30k miles. Just had one done on the wife's Nissan/Mercury > mini-van, $120 parts/labor/tax. My 06 Sonata LX will get the same at > 30k... > > Steve Why? Hyundai does not recommend the service so why should you believe the dealer whose main interest is making a profit? Check what the manual says, the Hyundai engineers know more than the service writer/salesman at the dealership. It's your money . . . . . Edwin, To dispute your point, I just checked my manual and due to "severe conditionons", the manual recommends relacing the fluid every 30k miles. Details below: Maintenance Item Operation Interval Driving Condition AUTOMATIC TRANSAXLE FLUID Replace EVERY 30,000 MILES (48,000 KM) A, C, E, F, G, H, I SEVERE DRIVING CONDITIONS- A - Repeatedly driving short distance of less than 5miles (8km) in normal temperature or less than 10miles (16km) in freezing temperature B - Extensive engine idling or low speed driving for long distances C - Driving on rough, dusty, muddy, unpaved, graveled or salt- spread roads D - Driving in areas using salt or other corrosive materials or in very cold weather E - Driving in sandy areas F - Driving in heavy traffic area over 90°F (32°C) G - Driving on uphill, downhill, or mountain road H - Towing a Trailer, or using a camper, or roof rack I - Driving as a patrol car, taxi, other commercial use or vehicle towing J - Driving over 100 MPH (170 Km/h) K - Frequently driving in stop-and-go conditions I happen to fall into the C, E, and F categories. Huyndai engineers wrote this thing. Cheap insurance in exchange for a new transmission post-warranty. In addition, all of my vehicle maintenance are deductions... My dealer isn't out to get me, they saved me $600 by bringing in a paintless dent removal guy to fix some jerk's failed attempt to control his door in the wind. Cost- $0. My $25 oil change comes with a free wash and includes Castrol GTX 10-30W. If it's going to be over an hour, I get a loaner to take care of errands while waiting. Some dealers actually care! What brand of oil are you getting? I bet it's not Castrol. May the "P" stuff? Steve SignatureNW AZ home for sale in growing area- http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rfs/370324491.html http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/383472.html >> Difference in dealers here I believe. My Hyundai shop recommends a tranny >> flush every 30k miles. Just had one done on the wife's Nissan/Mercury [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > It's your money . . . . . > Edwin, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > SEVERE DRIVING CONDITIONS- As I said, check the manual and you did. Very few of us fit into those categories. For most of us, it merely suggests checking the fluid. Thanks for the reply. Yes, I don't fall into the average category as most in the group. Man, I don't even fall into that category in real life! I hate parting with my duckets as most though and I scrutinize my dealer as well as any interaction with a store/shop/stealership/parts store etc. It's become a sad world... Steve SignatureNW AZ home for sale in growing area- http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rfs/370324491.html http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/383472.html >> Edwin, >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > As I said, check the manual and you did. Very few of us fit into those > categories. For most of us, it merely suggests checking the fluid. >>I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my >> transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change. My [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >the interval suggested by Hyundai? Some shops try to push extra services >you don't really need. Yes, I always go to the dealer for oil changes. My book says inspect the tranny fluid every 30,000 miles and to change every 60,000 miles. And when I went to the dealer and they told me my pads and rotors were shot I refused their outrageous price. It was like $1300 for the brakes, tranny fluid, oil and coolant. I ended up getting the brakes done, with parts from the dealer, for under $500. My mechanic pointed out to me, when the car was on the rack, I needed new tires. He said he could get the stock ones for me if I wanted. I said no way, the car only has 30k on it and I had them rotated frequently. As for my mechanic? He's a professional and keeps detailed records for all the cars he works on. And I'm going to keep the receipts for all the maintenance he does. He's less than a mile away, compared to the Hyundia dealer, about 15 miles away. But I will NOT take a chance on my warranty. I only started taking this new car (2004, 30,000 miles) to my local mechanic since it needed more than an oil changes. It hasn't been in for warranty work and the only maintenance I've needed so far is oil changes and wiper blades. (other than the brakes I mentioned) Brian "Brian Matthews" <noonecares@ddd.com> wrote in message > Yes, I always go to the dealer for oil changes. > As for my mechanic? He's a professional and keeps detailed records for > all the cars he works on. And I'm going to keep the receipts for all > the maintenance he does. He's less than a mile away, compared to the > Hyundia dealer, about 15 miles away. But I will NOT take a chance on > my warranty. If he (and you) are keeping records of the maintenance, there is no chance taken. Most of the time, dealers are more expensive and some try to sell work that in not needed. Some independent shops do as well, of curse so when you find a trustworthy shop, stick with them. Dealers are usually better for some specific to brand problems because they see them all the time and have training more on that brand. Routine work, as you have found, can be d one more economically elsewhere in most cases. > GUEST wrote > I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said m > transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change M > questions are this > > 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechani flus > and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty > > 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had the > rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a goo brand/typ > of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get m an > tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousan > miles > > 3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time a th > tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this > > Thanks to any and all help > > Bria I have had really bad results with Michelin tires wit several separations, etc. Have had good results with Goodyear an Goodrich. Put ComforTred Goodyear's on my 02 Sonata 30,000 miles ag and I don't think they are half worn out yet. Goodyear says 80,00 miles but I never get what the manufacturers say. They cost $93 eac at Sam's Club I still think you should not need anything done to the transmission a 30,000 miles. Change the antifreeze every 2-3 years > 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them > rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good brand/type > of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me any > tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand > miles. I have over 60k on the Bridgestone Turanza LS tires. IMHO...well worth every penny I paid. Perform well in all conditions, good handling, pretty quiet, and 'no hydroplaning' L. >> 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them >> rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good brand/type [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >L. My mechanic recommends Good Year Assurance Triple Tread tires. these are an 80,000 mile tire. The complete package, including hazard care, is $525.00. Seems like a lot but I want good tires and I read good reviews on these tires. How much were your Bridgestone tires? Brian >>> 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them >>> rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good brand/type [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Brian Sorry, have them for over 4 years already. Don't remember what they cost. L. > GUEST wrote > I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said m > transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change M > questions are this > > 1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechani flus > and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty > > 2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had the > rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a goo brand/typ > of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get m an > tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousan > miles > > 3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time a th > tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this > > Thanks to any and all help > > Bria $525 is not a bad price for the Goodyear TriplTred's. Sam's Club price is $503.12 plus tax. Includes road hazard, balance etc. I think they are worth the money > > GUEST wrote: > > I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >Sam's Club price is $503.12 plus tax. Includes road hazard, balance, >etc. I think they are worth the money. Just got home. My mechanic installed all 4 tires, checked the alignment, balanced the tires, flushed the coolant and tranny fluid all for $675.00. Much cheaper than a dealer. The tires come with the road hazard and free rotation. Plus, once a year, I get free balancing. Brian Kumho tires are great for the price, I think as good as michelin Mark >I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my > transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change. My [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Brian |
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