Don't assume the stuff on the oil cap indicates coolant in the oil. In
fact, even when severely overheated, Hyundai engines/head gaskets rarely
fail in that way. Most frequently, this milkshake-type goop is the result
of short trip driving that causes condensation and doesn't allow it to burn
off.
Now for the bad news. If your head gasket is indeed leaking, you'll
probably need a cylinder head. Very, very rarely do I see a case where a
head gasket leaks from overheating and the head isn't warped beyond
repair.
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> fact, even when severely overheated, Hyundai engines/head gaskets rarely
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To be honest with you, my Mom driving is pretty much limited to short
trips. The oil cap isn't fully coated with the brown stuff and when
you inside the rocker cover, the oil appears to have a typical oily
color.
I guess the best way to really make sure is to simply drain the
crankcase a little and make the diagnosis then.
Incidentally, with all the water the car is going through, you would
think that the oil dipstick would reflect an increased volume of oil
and water, correct?
Also... is it possible that there would be no white smoke out of the
tailpipe if the car would be going through a quart of water in a 45
minute trip?
>From what I remember the oil on the dipstick doesn't show any water
deposits in it, but this may not be enough oil to
hyundaitech - 14 Sep 2007 17:29 GMT
>Incidentally, with all the water the car is >going through, you would
>think that the oil dipstick would reflect an >increased volume of oil
>and water, correct?
No. As I said previously, this is not the typical cylinder head/head
gasket failure mode on this engine. If you have a head gasket problem,
the coolant is most likely leaking into the the combustion chamber, not
the crankcase.
>Also... is it possible that there would be no >white smoke out of the
>tailpipe if the car would be going through a >quart of water in a 45
>minute trip?
Again, this depends on the size of the leak. Maybe.
Once you know what cylinder is misfiring, pull that plug. Rotate the
engine so that piston is at the top and look down in with your flashlight.
If the piston is clean, you have coolant leaking into the combustion
chamber. If it isn't clean, you should probably revisit more typical
misfire and cooling system diagnosis procedures.
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Navaidstech - 15 Sep 2007 01:45 GMT
> >Incidentally, with all the water the car is >going through, you would
> >think that the oil dipstick would reflect an >increased volume of oil
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Did a couple of things today.
1. Drained some oil from the crankcase. No trace of water in it, so
you were right about the cap. Whew on that one.
2. Pulled the offending plug and sure enough she was wet, so this is
where the coolant is going into.
Now a million dollar question: head or intake manifold gasket? Didn't
have a compression gauge handy so I couldn't check. Will do that
tomorrow.
I'm also planning to pull the intake manifold tomorrow to check on the
condition of the gasket there.
Thanks for steering me in the right direction.
hyundaitech - 15 Sep 2007 02:57 GMT
There's no coolant in the intake manifold, so it won't be coming from
there. Unless there's something really weird going on (such as cracked
head or block), the issue is with the head gasket. Expect that when you
pull the head, it'll be warped beyond repair.
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Navaidstech - 15 Sep 2007 03:14 GMT
Bad news indeed.
I don't think I'll bother with it then. The car isn't worth the
trouble and/or the expense. Too bad because it ran quite nicely.
Thanks for all the advice and pointers.
Alex