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Does anybody know how to get rid of small dents caused by somebody knocking their door onto mine?

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bio - 29 Sep 2007 23:13 GMT
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mmcclaf@gmail.com - 30 Sep 2007 18:21 GMT
> a

A trick I found that helps, are those suction cup things meant for
dents in the car.
Paul Johnson - 30 Sep 2007 20:34 GMT
> Subject:  Does anybody know how to get rid of small dents caused by somebody knocking their door onto mine?

You might want to learn how to post:  Subject should be something more
like "Door dent removal", then post your question in the body where
people can properly address it.

The best way to remove door dings is to catch them in the act then
insist on getting insurance information out of them.

Though given your posting habits, I would hazard to guess your parking
habits aren't much better and you're the source of other people's door
dings...
Eric G. - 01 Oct 2007 14:00 GMT
>> Subject:  Does anybody know how to get rid of small dents caused by
>> somebody knocking their door onto mine?
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> habits aren't much better and you're the source of other people's door
> dings...

Paul, maybe you'd be better suited to policing another usenet group.  This
group is fairly low volume.  Chastising posters for not following what YOU
consider to be good netiquette is really not productive here.

Eric
Irwin Opper - 01 Oct 2007 15:21 GMT
AMEN

>>> Subject:  Does anybody know how to get rid of small dents caused by
>>> somebody knocking their door onto mine?
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>
> Eric
Tom - 04 Oct 2007 23:44 GMT
Amen from here too.  Go away Paul.....

> AMEN
>
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>>
>> Eric
jusme - 01 Oct 2007 21:25 GMT
I am glad that I am not the only user of this group that found his
post totally inappropriate and rude.

me

>Paul, maybe you'd be better suited to policing another usenet group.  This
>group is fairly low volume.  Chastising posters for not following what YOU
>consider to be good netiquette is really not productive here.
>
>Eric
Mike Marlow - 01 Oct 2007 22:02 GMT
>I am glad that I am not the only user of this group that found his
> post totally inappropriate and rude.

I didn't mind Eric's reply to Paul's post, but Paul was not at all
inappropriate or rude.  He spoke of usenet conventions which the OP was more
rude in ignoring.  Some may not like people like Paul flying the banner to
preserve the manner of usenet, but he at least stood for the traditions and
conventions that have served the masses as opposed to the whims of
individuals who simply chose to do as they please.  Those are the people who
are more inappropriate in their actions and rude.

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jusme - 01 Oct 2007 22:50 GMT
I have been around USEnet for well over a decade (and on BBSes before
that), I do not in any way need your 5 cent lecture, thank you.

Here's a quarter, why don't you call someone..

me

>I didn't mind Eric's reply to Paul's post, but Paul was not at all
>inappropriate or rude.  He spoke of usenet conventions which the OP was more
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>individuals who simply chose to do as they please.  Those are the people who
>are more inappropriate in their actions and rude.
Mike Marlow - 02 Oct 2007 04:03 GMT
>I have been around USEnet for well over a decade (and on BBSes before
> that), I do not in any way need your 5 cent lecture, thank you.
>
> Here's a quarter, why don't you call someone..
>
> me

Well - I guess if you don't want to see the opinions of others in response
to yours, then you should keep your 5 cent opinions to yourself.

Keep your quarter - I don't need it.

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mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Paul Johnson - 08 Oct 2007 05:24 GMT
> I have been around USEnet for well over a decade (and on BBSes before
> that), I do not in any way need your 5 cent lecture, thank you.

And learned nothing if you can't be bothered to follow RFC 1855...
Eric G. - 09 Oct 2007 00:22 GMT
Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca> wrote in news:1191817486.326549.195100@
19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com:

>> I have been around USEnet for well over a decade (and on BBSes before
>> that), I do not in any way need your 5 cent lecture, thank you.
>
> And learned nothing if you can't be bothered to follow RFC 1855...

And did you know that according to law, it is still illegal to eat a pickle
on Sunday here in the Trenton, NJ, area in public.

Some antiquated rules, regulations and laws need to be revised to help deal
with change that has occurred over the years.

Again, it may be illegal to eat that pickle today, but the bottom line is
that no one cares.  Much like RFC 1855.

Eric
Leonardo - 02 Oct 2007 00:47 GMT
> I didn't mind Eric's reply to Paul's post, but Paul was not at all
> inappropriate or rude.  He spoke of usenet conventions which the OP was more
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> individuals who simply chose to do as they please.  Those are the people who
> are more inappropriate in their actions and rude.

This is a put on, right?

LA
Paul Johnson - 08 Oct 2007 05:23 GMT
> >I am glad that I am not the only user of this group that found his
> > post totally inappropriate and rude.
>
> I didn't mind Eric's reply to Paul's post, but Paul was not at all
> inappropriate or rude.  He spoke of usenet conventions which the OP was more
> rude in ignoring.

Thank you for making the correct observation.
Eric G. - 09 Oct 2007 00:20 GMT
>> >I am glad that I am not the only user of this group that found his
>> > post totally inappropriate and rude.
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>
> Thank you for making the correct observation.

I wasn't arguing the observation myself, just the fact that it isn't needed  
or appreciated here.

Eric
irwell - 01 Oct 2007 15:50 GMT
>> Subject:  Does anybody know how to get rid of small dents caused by somebody knocking their door onto mine?
>
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>habits aren't much better and you're the source of other people's door
>dings...

Seems like you need your dings sucked out.
']['unez - 01 Oct 2007 22:13 GMT
Geeezzz Paul I guess Im really gonna be outta line trying to find out the
appropriate way to take a dead Road Runner outta my grill  !

']['unes

P.S. Road runners are kinda fast but this one was standing still when he hit
me. ( Maybe he was waiting for the Coyote.) OH BTW just for your info I
couldnt find a Road Runner in the Grill newsgroup.  SORRY

>> Subject:  Does anybody know how to get rid of small dents caused by
>> somebody knocking their door onto mine?
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> habits aren't much better and you're the source of other people's door
> dings...
Thee Chicago Wolf - 02 Oct 2007 16:04 GMT
It seems more important for others to argue about the format of your
question as opposed to answering it, I'll give you a tip that did work
for me on my 02 Sonata. It is a bit involved and you have to be
comfortable with taking the door panels off, at least if you want to
make it a DIY project. Pushing small dents and dings out from inside
the door panel will at least yield you decent results.

I've used everything from a small 2" hard-plastic touch-up paint
roller to a large "masher" marble to roll out the concavities.
Something with a fairly rigid but curved surface works well. You won't
be able to suck out small door dings using the old plunger technique
though. Door panels are "soft" metal so it's not too hard to push out
the dings but you have to be careful in the amount of force you use so
as to not make it convex. It takes a bit of patience and practice but
it can be done.

Depending on you model, you might ask Hyundaitech for tips on removing
the door panels or there might be info on hmaservice.com (requires
free registration). If this sounds a bit much, you could always go to
a couple of body shops and get quotes. It depends on what you're
willing to live with. If you don't mind walking, you could always be
the person who parks in the farthest corner of the lot where no one
else parks.

- Thee Chicago Wolf
Mike Marlow - 02 Oct 2007 17:03 GMT
> It seems more important for others to argue about the format of your
> question as opposed to answering it,

Argh!  Sometimes it's not fun to read statements like this.

> I'll give you a tip that did work
> for me on my 02 Sonata. It is a bit involved and you have to be
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> as to not make it convex. It takes a bit of patience and practice but
> it can be done.

It can be, as you say, but I'd add to your cautions that a little at a time
is the way to go.  Try rolling gently from the outside edges of the ding
(from inside the door), toward the center.  It may seem intuitive to just
lay on the crown of the ding and try to flatten it out, but you will most
likely stretch the metal this way.  Do yourself a favor and do some google
searches on Paintless Dent Removal.  You will find enough sites with
information to give you better insight.

> Depending on you model, you might ask Hyundaitech for tips on removing
> the door panels or there might be info on hmaservice.com (requires
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the person who parks in the farthest corner of the lot where no one
> else parks.

As well, let your fingers do the walking and try to find a Paintless Dent
Removal company in your area.  Most dealers know these guys in their area,
because the use them themselves.

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Thee Chicago Wolf - 02 Oct 2007 18:07 GMT
>It can be, as you say, but I'd add to your cautions that a little at a time
>is the way to go.  Try rolling gently from the outside edges of the ding
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>searches on Paintless Dent Removal.  You will find enough sites with
>information to give you better insight.

Ah yes, I did forget to mention to specifically roll "across" the dent
from inside the door. "Roll Out" is a bit nebulous. My wording could
have implied to just apply force and the peak / center of the
concavity which is in fact not the way to do it. Slow and easy, easy
and slow is the way to do it. Yes, it will stretch the metal or make
it convex if you just apply force to the center of the ding / dent.

>As well, let your fingers do the walking and try to find a Paintless Dent
>Removal company in your area.  Most dealers know these guys in their area,
>because the use them themselves.

Yup, that's another good choice and might be more competitive than
body shop rates.

- Thee Chicago Wolf
Bob - 03 Oct 2007 00:34 GMT
> As well, let your fingers do the walking and try to find a Paintless Dent
> Removal company in your area.  Most dealers know these guys in their area,
> because the use them themselves.

And, you know what? They really can make it look good!

http://www.colorswilmington.com/photogallery.html

2nd row, third picture is my Town and Country after being smacked by a trash
can during a windstorm (one of those monster municipal things). 2nd row,
fourth picture is after about an hour and a half of him working on it. They
come to you (in this case it was while I was at work), so you are not
without a vehicle. They charged about $200 for the work compared with around
$800 at three different body shops. The best part was when I traded it, the
dealer has a form you sign off on where they ask if it ever had any
paintwork.... Guess what? I could honestly say no. Long term, there's no
paint mismatch like you might get with a body shop - no bondo to fall out,
either.

If you want it to look good, I would suggest not messing with it until you
get one of the PDR guys to look at it. If it's small, it won't cost much. If
you try to fix it, it might make it harder or impossible for one of these
guys to repair it.
 
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