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Car Forum / Hyundai Cars / December 2007Reliability of Hyndai Sonata
Hello, I am considering buying a 2007 Hyundai Sonata (V6 engine). I have never owned a Hyundai but read positive things about their cars. Here's my dilemma- I would love to hear from owners about how a Hyndai Sonata performs after it has a few years on it compared to how the car performed when new. I think most manufacturer's cars today drive well when new, but some age sooner compared to the Japanese cars (IMHO). Ken I have a '06 LX with 40,000. Had it for 27 months. It has been stellar. Absolutely love this car. My only complaint is the leather is too light. Hard to keep it clean. My brakes are starting to have a slight squeak. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ken "Ken" <raidken@yahoo.com> wrote in message > Here's my dilemma- > I would love to hear from owners about how a Hyndai Sonata performs > after it has a few years on it compared to how the car performed when > new. I have an '07 with 24,300 miles. Not a problem yet. Never been back to the dealer. I used to switch between my two cars but since I've had the Sonata, I never take the Buick. >I am considering buying a 2007 Hyundai Sonata (V6 engine). I have >never owned a Hyundai but read positive things about their cars. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I think most manufacturer's cars today drive well when new, but some >age sooner compared to the Japanese cars (IMHO). My '02 GLS (bough Nov. 20010) is going strong with 83k and I have not had one single problem with it mechanically. I have done regular maintenance per the schedule and it's been an overall stellar experience. I have had some paint coming off the door handles but they're plastic so it's kind of expected. - Thee Chicago Wolf Ken <raidken@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1192552562.533504.214710 @i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com: > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ken 2006 Sonata GLS V6. I just turned 32,000 miles today. Purchased on 9/28/05. I've had it to the dealer once for a TSB on the ATX for the downshift from 5-2. Other than that, nothing really but oil changes. I had the brake squeak before and that turned out to be a need for grease on the caliper bolts. I have the squeak again and it is likely the same issue. The pads are still fine. Simply put, so far it is the best car I personally have ever owned. Eric >I >had the brake squeak before and that turned out to be a need for grease on >the caliper bolts. I have the squeak again and it is likely the same >issue. I'm having the same problem. It doesn't happen when I hit the brakes though, it happens when the car is moving. A high pitched squeaking coming from the wheel (in front) It only started after I had the brake pads and rotors replaced. Grease the bolts, huh? I'll tell my mechanic. He thought it may be the struts when he heard it. I thought it was maybe a wheel bearing but he said no way. He said if it was a bearing it would be more of a grinding sound. Did you have to remove the entire caliper bolts and grease them? Thanks for the info. Brian >>I >>had the brake squeak before and that turned out to be a need for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Brian Yes, you do need to remove the bolt because they have mini rubber boots over them to try to keep debris out. Very simple to do actually. Eric P.S. - The sqeak I have happens just as you describe. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ken I can't speak to the V-6 as I have the four-banger, but overall the car has been very reliable. I haven't been back to the dealer yet for anything significant (I just rolled over 29,000 miles on my 06 Sonata). They tried to find the snapping noise in the cowl/windshield, but were unsuccessful. So, other than that noise when the car is cold, it has been nearly flawless from a manufacturing perspective. It has some annoying design issues, but the assembly quality appears to be outstanding. The car performs the same today as when new. Matt My '06 LX has 56000 miles on it, and it drives like the day we bought it. Nice car. > Hello, > >I have an 06 LX with 39500 miles. The only issue I've had is with the CD changer. Had to be replaced twice. Ken <raidken@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1192552562.533504.214710 @i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com: > I am considering buying a 2007 Hyundai Sonata (V6 engine). I have > never owned a Hyundai but read positive things about their cars. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I think most manufacturer's cars today drive well when new, but some > age sooner compared to the Japanese cars (IMHO). I bought a used (by Hertz) 2005 V6 automatic Sonata. It had 17K miles on it when I bought it and I have put about 35K more (mostly highway). It has not needed anything other than regular oil changes. I really like it. I have not looked at the newer models but I am assuming they are no worse and the next time I am looking for a car, I will definitely check out Hyundai's models first. Sinan  SignatureA. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> (remove .invalid and reverse each component for email address) >Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I think most manufacturer's cars today drive well when new, but some >age sooner compared to the Japanese cars (IMHO). My 06 V6 Sonata required 2 TSB's, not surprising on a new model, and fixed on the 07. It's been great, and has no squeaks or rattles at 21K miles. We're more than satisfied, and feel like we stole the car. You'll love the V6. It's jet smooth from idle up to redline. - Bob I have a 2003 Sonata with 6cyl engine, 53,000 miles and had no problems at all - great car rr > GUEST wrote > Hello [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I would love to hear from owners about how a Hyndai Sonata perform > after it has a few years on it compared to how the car performe whe > new > I think most manufacturer's cars today drive well when new, bu som > age sooner compared to the Japanese cars (IMHO) > > Ke Have a 2002 Sonata. It has been a pretty good car. Have received better reliability and longevity from Honda. They als have better feel to drive. Hyundai America refused to repair m brakes under the bumper-to-bumber warranty even though the car wa still covered The positive is: with 75,000 miles on the car it is still our mai car and I hope to drive it 150,000 miles. Expect it will be junk b then if it makes it. Honda's last 200,000 miles The Hyundai's are a little less expensive to purchase initially. Resale on Hyundai's really sucks so do not total out the car and pla on driving it a long time Next time I will buy Honda because I think the Hyundai's are about th same quality as Ford and GM. Also, they use oddball battery sizes an very expensive transmission fluid only available from the dealer Good luck, it is a difficult decision > Have a 2002 Sonata. It has been a pretty good car. > Have received better reliability and longevity from Honda. They also > have better feel to drive. Hyundai America refused to repair my > brakes under the bumper-to-bumber warranty even though the car was > still covered. Interesting. How could you have experienced better longevity from the Honda when you're still driving the Hyundai? > The positive is: with 75,000 miles on the car it is still our main > car and I hope to drive it 150,000 miles. Expect it will be junk by > then if it makes it. Honda's last 200,000 miles. I'm not sure why you'd expect it to be junk by 150,000 miles. There are plenty enough of them out there that aren't. Most every car today will go 200,000 - that's certainly nothing unique to Honda. > The Hyundai's are a little less expensive to purchase initially. > Resale on Hyundai's really sucks so do not total out the car and plan > on driving it a long time. Yup - a down side if either you total the car or are accustomed to trading regularly. The hit is not as bad as it used to be, but the resale value is not as good as some might wish it were. > Next time I will buy Honda because I think the Hyundai's are about the > same quality as Ford and GM. Also, they use oddball battery sizes and > very expensive transmission fluid only available from the dealer. Agreed on the tranny fluid, but the battery is a common aftermarket item. Signature-Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net > Have a 2002 Sonata. It has been a pretty good car. > Have received better reliability and longevity from Honda. They also > have better feel to drive. Hyundai America refused to repair my > brakes under the bumper-to-bumber warranty even though the car was > still covered. Did you read your waranty manual? Normal wear on brakes is rarely covered under any manufacturers' bumper-to-bumper warranty. The 2007 language (not unique to Hyundai or 2007) reads in part: "Normal maintenance items (#) are warranted in normal service, only when replacement is the result of a defect in material or factory workmanship, for 12 months from the date of original delivery or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first. ..... # - such as belts, brake pads and linings, clutch linings,..........." Again this is common across the industry. "southluke" <luke.l.talley@boeing-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message > Honda's last 200,000 miles. Every single one of them? > "southluke" <luke.l.talley@boeing-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message >> Honda's last 200,000 miles. > > Every single one of them? My 84 Accord didn't even make 80,000 miles before the engine had to have a top-end replacement. Matt Our Honda Accord made 35000 miles before we trashed it. The cam lobes had worn at 35000 miles? Come on, Honda's reliability, pure sh.t. Never, ever, will I buy a Honda again. > > "southluke" <luke.l.talley@boeing-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message > >> Honda's last 200,000 miles. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Matt > Our Honda Accord made 35000 miles before we trashed it. The cam lobes had > worn at 35000 miles? Come on, Honda's reliability, pure sh.t. Never, ever, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Matt That is the same problem I had. My 84 Accord had the cam lobes and rocker arm pads self destruct at 70,000 miles. Had to replace the cam and full set of rockers, but no way could I ever get all of the crud out of the engine so I traded it as soon as it was repaired on a new 89 Plymouth Acclaim. That vehicle was rock solid and ran 146,000 miles with zero engine problems ... and then my wife hit a deer and totaled it. What year was your Accord? Matt I believe it was a 85 accord exi. > > Our Honda Accord made 35000 miles before we trashed it. The cam lobes had > > worn at 35000 miles? Come on, Honda's reliability, pure sh.t. Never, ever, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Matt >Our Honda Accord made 35000 miles before we trashed it. The cam lobes had >worn at 35000 miles? Come on, Honda's reliability, pure sh.t. Never, ever, >will I buy a Honda again. Never say never. You may be shooting yourself in the foot by ruling out an entire brand. Cars are redesigned every 3-5 years, and a bad one can suddenly become great. I have had nothing but trouble from my "bullet proof" Toyota pickup, but the way it looks now, my next one will be a Toyota. Not because of brand loyalty, but because I think the Toyota truck sucks less than the rest. - Bob >> Our Honda Accord made 35000 miles before we trashed it. The cam lobes had >> worn at 35000 miles? Come on, Honda's reliability, pure sh.t. Never, ever, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > brand loyalty, but because I think the Toyota truck sucks less than > the rest. I dunno. I recently test drove a new Tundra because Toyota gave me $50 to spend at Home Depot for taking the test drive. I was not impressed at all. I like my 1994 Chevy K1500 with 100K miles better than the new Tundra. Yes, the Tundra has more power and was a little quieter, but almost everything else was negative compared to the Chevy. The Toyota was like the old F250 Fords where you need a ladder to get in. The visibility out is terrible! The front pillars are extremely wide and the tailgate is so tall that combined with the height of the rear of the truck, you could hide a minivan behind it. The steering was vague and the thing had a beeper that beeped constantly when you shifted into 4-Lo. Very annoying. And the truck is ugly to top it off. After driving one, I'd never consider buying one. I think the salesman thought I was joking when I said I liked my 13 year-old Chevy better than his brand new Toyota, but I was actually dead serious. Matt >I dunno. I recently test drove a new Tundra because Toyota gave me $50 >to spend at Home Depot for taking the test drive. I was not impressed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >thought I was joking when I said I liked my 13 year-old Chevy better >than his brand new Toyota, but I was actually dead serious. Matt, I have driven a 2006 Tundra quite extensively, and found it just "OK". If felt more like I was driving a big, floaty SUV than a rugged truck. It's a moot point anyway. I'm in the market for a Tacoma-sized truck. I drive on narrow grass lanes and levees on my property, and that big ole Tundra would rut up my roads something awful. I wish I could hold out until Hyundai markets a Tacoma-sized pickup with a ~150hp diesel, but my old Toyota is on its last leg. I'm not a brand loyalist by any means. All I care about it reliability and bang for the buck. - Bob > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ken We have two 2007 NF Elites in our fleet I prefer the 4 as it is averaging 7.7 litres per 100 kM now is coming into our hot weather here in AU and consumtion up to about 8.9 per 100 KM 80% of driving on dirt roads The car is the most dust proof vehicle I have ever driven Much better than BMW & Honda Given that it "flies" over heavily rutted roads at average of 100 KMPH last month has 41000 KM on it since March 23 2007 Have tried hard but can not fault this vehicle the NF is a far nicer car than any previous Hyundai all round. Can not reccomend this vehicle highly enough . The boss cleaned up a roo in His Holden Statesman at about 90KMPH result $13000 damage ( no the airbags diid not deploy so the cost was all panel & paint) I had a "coming together" with an Even Bigger male red roo on dirt road at about 115 Kmph on a sweeper bend with ore truck coming other way so was a bit of a white knuckle change the undies moment . Awful loud bang and CRUNCH sound though oh here we go another 10+K off the budget --------- Can send the pics of the Damage !!! $85.00 for crack repair to the griill and under pan cracked so body repair just plastic welded it and replaced reatining clips . Truly AMAZING Vehicle Only fault was on delivery day CD changer failed and they replaced at first service and flew part to the bush ------- Hyundai Australia head office followed up and even sent $ to replace chewed up disk !!!! If you send mail to spamlister at gmail dot com happy to supply pics I have yet to receive such excellent service from any other manufacture of anything ( Intel and HP take note ) One complaint I do have is the fitment of OEM tyres to Australian vehicles Dunlop SP 270 Series 225/50/17 European silica compound They drive superb But wear like blazes front set chewed out at 18000 Kms (Australian dirt roads and tarmac temps of high 70 c ) test any tyre Replaced them with Kuhmos and Hankooks now no more Problems . This Korean gear is as we say here " is the ducks Guts " Means in Aussie speak top of the line . Mate if you are unhappy with a 07 Sonata reckon you are bloody hard to please :) Strangely there are still those who knock Sonatas maybe bad experiences or bias towards previous models (some of it deservedly so _ ) Our fleet consists of Big Holdens Hyundais Mistubishi (yuk) many Toyotas a couple of Volvos and Fords (called falcons here) and the Sonata's running costs are the cheapest in the fleet . The drivers (who when heard they were being put into them including myself said dont want any of that Korean Crap ) well now apologise to the make as they are truly OUTSTANDING given what we do to them and driving conditions . Common sense and company rules is that we check and blow out the dust from the air filters end of each week is about the only non scheduled service performed on the whole fleet ( red dust here is full of FE and tests show 60.9 FE content of the dust) basicly powdered Iron and more than one local has paid the price for being slack and ended up dusting engines (stupid noddy some how put the air filter in arse up and allowed unfiltered air straight into the engine = oops ! ) IMO you should have trouble free and very comfortable and safe driving experience . The vehicles on these dirt roads get driven hard and quick and are as sure footed as one could wish for (apart from constant 4wd subi's) Polen filters in air conditioning DO WORK and the seals etc keep all the hot air and dust and other nasties out . Windscreens here get broken regularly due to opposing traffic throwing up rocks etc ----- either by luck or strength having copped more than my fair share of rocks have not done one it yet only cars witjout a history of screens are the 3 Hyundais ---we are still trying to work out why this blip in the stats but not complaining At night (here looking to find fault) the lights run out of road :) so we slow down to 100 Ks ( wild life considerations) . The ABS and dynamics of the suspension and handling mean that if you prang one you have been driving like a clot . They handle far better than they should for the price even in the rare instance of rain on greasy muddy roads chewed up by road trains (see - http://www.kimberleyaustralia.com/image-files/gibb-river-road-pictures-11.jpg & http://www.framecraft.com.au/images/october/9b.jpg & http://www.framecraft.com.au/images/october/31b.jpg) for what a Aussie road train is you may begin to appreciate just how we punish our vehicles here. The cars are so good for the first time when we turn these over (at 75000) I shall buy the one I am currently in for the wife --------- they ARE THAT GOOD . And I have noting to do with Hyundai I just drive the buggers into the ground but heck they are hard to kill these things :) Enjoy happy and above all safe motoring with one if you eventually choose one Cheers From Australia Hi, I like your description. I can join the common opinion about Hyundai. It is a solid car maker now. In Canada -42C in a winter is nothing unusual and Hyundais are driven with no major problems here. My friend drives '07 Sonata V6 and his car is ready to ride as soon as engine powers up while Toyota and Honda need to be warmed up in a winter before drive. (in Ontario with -40C even Mercedes and BMW fail). GA Ontario > We have two 2007 NF Elites in our fleet > I prefer the 4 as it is averaging 7.7 litres per 100 kM now is > coming into our hot weather here in AU [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > > Cheers From Australia You're basing an opinion on a 1 year old vehicle! My 01 Sonata has had nothing but problems, albeit none with the power train, yet. Have replaced three window regulators, an alternator, water pump, paint peeling off the door handles, replaced engine mounts twice. I could go on with quit a bit more. But no engine failure yet, thank god. > Hi, > I like your description. [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > > than they should for the price even in the rare instance of rain on > > greasy muddy roads chewed up by road trains (see - http://www.kimberleyaustralia.com/image-files/gibb-river-road-pictures-11.jpg > > & http://www.framecraft.com.au/images/october/9b.jpg > > & http://www.framecraft.com.au/images/october/31b.jpg) for what a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > > Cheers From Australia > You're basing an opinion on a 1 year old vehicle! My 01 Sonata has had > nothing but problems, albeit none with the power train, yet. Have replaced > three window regulators, an alternator, water pump, paint peeling off the > door handles, replaced engine mounts twice. I could go on with quit a bit > more. But no engine failure yet, thank god. Still apples and oranges. The 01 has nothing in common with the 06-07-08 models. Different engine, transmission, body, assembly plant. Sorry to hear of your problems, but they don't extrapolate anything to the new models. Watching this thread, I have to say my 02 Sonata was a creampuff! Only had 3 issues, one of which I created; 1. Rear speakers blown, yeah I know, too much bass! 2. MAF sensor died on a HOT 124 degree Laughlin, NV day. 3. Clutch- once in a blue moon it wouldn't disengage which I traced back to a bad slave cylinder. The SM and I went round and round over that one. All in all, I have had three Sonatas now and I think they are fast becoming the Toyota and Hondas of the 21st century. They've already edged out Nissan amongst several "authoritative" publications. Now, when they get big, famous and expensive, what other choice will us poor working stiffs have? Maybe Yugo will make a comeback! Steve >> You're basing an opinion on a 1 year old vehicle! My 01 Sonata has had >> nothing but problems, albeit none with the power train, yet. Have [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > hear of your problems, but they don't extrapolate anything to the new > models. SR> Now, when they get big, famous and expensive, what other choice will SR> us poor working stiffs have? Maybe Yugo will make a comeback! Chinese cars will appear in our not-too-distant future. There are presently 5 carmakers in China. Bye Wayne Moses <wayne.moses@comcast.net> Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:11:36 -0600 Thanks for the info Wayne. I saw a Chery (no, not a typo) sometime ago in an article and it was like < $7k! SignatureSteve, 2008 Sonata SE http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/463926931.html > SR> Now, when they get big, famous and expensive, what other choice will > SR> us poor working stiffs have? Maybe Yugo will make a comeback! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > === Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3 http://www.cheryglobal.com/ SignatureSteve, 2008 Sonata SE http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/463926931.html > Thanks for the info Wayne. I saw a Chery (no, not a typo) sometime ago in > an article and it was like < $7k! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> === Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3 Had 3 Sonata,s. Only problem was on the 2002 V6 when all 6 plug leads failed one after the other about 2 months apart. And the silly bloody dealers were happy to pay somebody to take off all the inlet manifolding etc etc 3 times rather than just replace obviously a bad batch of leads they probably pay a few dollars for. What always impresses me with the things is that I get 7.8 litres per 100Km on a trip. From a 2.7 litre donk. Cheers John > http://www.cheryglobal.com/ > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>> >>> === Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3 > You're basing an opinion on a 1 year old vehicle! My 01 Sonata has had > nothing but problems, albeit none with the power train, yet. Have replaced > three window regulators, an alternator, water pump, paint peeling off the > door handles, replaced engine mounts twice. I could go on with quit a bit > more. But no engine failure yet, thank god. pardon me for snipping the previous 3000 lines of the thread......My 2006 lx has been most reliable. I did have a bad passenger seat adjuster which I think my kids managed to bugger up replaced by dealer on warrranty. Oh, and a ambient air temp sender fritz out in the first coupla' months...fixed on warranty. Mechanically, and fit and finish it has been a dream....57000 miles now. Thankfully none of the dreaded door handle paint peeling debacle. Too bloody Right I am mate! One year out here on any vehicle is worth about ten in other places Oh and not yet a squeak or rattle or problem of any sort and since original post another 18000 on the clock :) > You're basing an opinion on a 1 year old vehicle! My 01 Sonata has had > nothing but problems, albeit none with the power train, yet. Have replaced [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > We have two 2007 NF Elites in our fleet > > > I p > GUEST wrote > Hello [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I would love to hear from owners about how a Hyndai Sonata perform > after it has a few years on it compared to how the car performe whe > new > I think most manufacturer's cars today drive well when new, bu som > age sooner compared to the Japanese cars (IMHO) > > Ke I don't think every Honda makes it 200,000 miles, an for many different reasons. The reliability of cars is statisical i nature. That is why J. D. Powers and most others provide statisica data when trying to quantify the reliability of cars. They provid statements like number of defects per 100 cars or some such thin like that If you read their reports, Honda has been rating much higher tha Hyundai. Also, for consumer reports they poll owners and ask wha problems they have had over various periods of time. Again Honda' appear better I had the graduate level statisics courses and does this mean you Hyundai will not last longer than my Honda? NO The bottom line is you pay your money and you take your chances. Stistically, though, you have better odds of getting a reliable ca with a Honda. I have had three Honda vehicles and receive outstanding service from them. I only have a sample of one Hyunda and it has been pretty good but less than stellar. And I have no been happy at all with the warranty responses from the dealer an Hyundai America This is as objective an answer as I can come up with to defend m previous postings stating I will buy a Honda next time And by the way, 1984 models are not a very good comparison for today models. Hyundai's were about like Yugo's in 1984 Luk I own a Hyundai Sonata (100K) and a Honda Accord (50K). I would not buy a Hyundai again, primarily because I shared the same experience of getting a poor response from Hyundai America on an obvious defect. I had to sue Hyundai in small claims court before the manufacturer agreed to pay for the repair. They insisted on a confidentiality agreement, which is why I cannot elaborate. I have also had more costly repairs on my Sonata (e.g., electric window regulators, real wheel bearings). I do not think that Hyundai's are bad cars - I just won't reward a manufacturer that doesn't care about customer satisfaction with future purchases. I should add that I know of two other people who had similar bad experiences with Hyundai America. By contrast, my Hyundai dealer has been top notch in terms of service. My Honda has been very reliable thru 50K - no repairs other than normal maintenance. > > GUEST wrote: > > Hello, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >Luke >I own a Hyundai Sonata (100K) and a Honda Accord (50K). I would not buy a > Hyundai again, primarily because I shared the same experience of getting a > poor > response from Hyundai America on an obvious defect. I had to sue Hyundai > in > small claims court before the manufacturer agreed to pay for the repair. Just curious, what year? Are the USA made Sonatas better or worse than the Korea made? Given that the 06 was a brand new model, can you use older models as a comparison for reliability? Every car maker has had the problems you describe at one time or another and that is why buyers are quick to change brands after many years of driving one they liked. SignatureEd http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ My Hyundai Sonata is a 2000. I assume it's Korean made. Again, my issue is not so much with the car (which I still drive every day), it's with the manufacturer. The other two people I know had 2002 Sonatas. None of us will ever buy a Hyundai again. >>I own a Hyundai Sonata (100K) and a Honda Accord (50K). I would not buy a >> Hyundai again, primarily because I shared the same experience of getting a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >that is why buyers are quick to change brands after many years of driving >one they liked. > My Hyundai Sonata is a 2000. I assume it's Korean made. Again, my issue is > not so much with the car (which I still drive every day), it's with the > manufacturer. The other two people I know had 2002 Sonatas. None of us will > ever buy a Hyundai again. Your loss :) If your seven year old clunker is what you base 2007 & 10/12ths purchase on Good luck to you The 07 ones we have a brillient I own a Hyundai Sonata (100K) and a Honda Accord (50K). I would not buy a Hyundai again, primarily because I shared the same experience of getting a poor response from Hyundai America on an obvious defect. I had to sue Hyundai in small claims court before the manufacturer agreed to pay for the repair. They insisted on a confidentiality agreement, which is why I cannot elaborate. I have also had more costly repairs on my Sonata (e.g., electric window regulators, real wheel bearings). I do not think that Hyundai's are bad cars - I just won't reward a manufacturer that doesn't care about customer satisfaction with future purchases. I should add that I know of two other people who had similar bad experiences with Hyundai America. By contrast, my Hyundai dealer has been top notch in terms of service. My Honda has been very reliable thru 50K - no repairs other than normal maintenance. > > GUEST wrote: > > Hello, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >Luke I own a Hyundai Sonata (100K) and a Honda Accord (50K). I would not buy a Hyundai again, primarily because I shared the same experience of getting a poor response from Hyundai America on an obvious defect. I had to sue Hyundai in small claims court before the manufacturer agreed to pay for the repair. They insisted on a confidentiality agreement, which is why I cannot elaborate. I have also had more costly repairs on my Sonata (e.g., electric window regulators, real wheel bearings). I do not think that Hyundai's are bad cars - I just won't reward a manufacturer that doesn't care about customer satisfaction with future purchases. I should add that I know of two other people who had similar bad experiences with Hyundai America. By contrast, my Hyundai dealer has been top notch in terms of service. My Honda has been very reliable thru 50K - no repairs other than normal maintenance. > > GUEST wrote: > > Hello, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >Luke I own a Hyundai Sonata (100K) and a Honda Accord (50K). I would not buy a Hyundai again, primarily because I shared the same experience of getting a poor response from Hyundai America on an obvious defect. I had to sue Hyundai in small claims court before the manufacturer agreed to pay for the repair. They insisted on a confidentiality agreement, which is why I cannot elaborate. I have also had more costly repairs on my Sonata (e.g., electric window regulators, real wheel bearings). I do not think that Hyundai's are bad cars - I just won't reward a manufacturer that doesn't care about customer satisfaction with future purchases. I should add that I know of two other people who had similar bad experiences with Hyundai America. By contrast, my Hyundai dealer has been top notch in terms of service. My Honda has been very reliable thru 50K - no repairs other than normal maintenance. > > GUEST wrote: > > Hello, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >Luke I own a Hyundai Sonata (100K) and a Honda Accord (50K). I would not buy a Hyundai again, primarily because I shared the same experience of getting a poor response from Hyundai America on an obvious defect. I had to sue Hyundai in small claims court before the manufacturer agreed to pay for the repair. They insisted on a confidentiality agreement, which is why I cannot elaborate. I have also had more costly repairs on my Sonata (e.g., electric window regulators, real wheel bearings). I do not think that Hyundai's are bad cars - I just won't reward a manufacturer that doesn't care about customer satisfaction with future purchases. I should add that I know of two other people who had similar bad experiences with Hyundai America. By contrast, my Hyundai dealer has been top notch in terms of service. My Honda has been very reliable thru 50K - no repairs other than normal maintenance. > > GUEST wrote: > > Hello, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >Luke > I own a Hyundai Sonata (100K) and a Honda Accord (50K). I would not buy a > Hyundai again, primarily because I shared the same experience of getting a poor [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > My Honda has been very reliable thru 50K - no repairs other than normal > maintenance. Why not post this same message 5 or 6 more times? Matt I was not used to the software and by mistake created multiple postings. sorry >> I own a Hyundai Sonata (100K) and a Honda Accord (50K). I would not buy a >> Hyundai again, primarily because I shared the same experience of getting a [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Matt > This is as objective an answer as I can come up with to defend my > previous postings stating I will buy a Honda next time. > > And by the way, 1984 models are not a very good comparison for todays > models. Hyundai's were about like Yugo's in 1984. My issue with Honda was far more about the treatment I received from the dealer and from the Honda zone office than it was the engine failure itself, although that was certainly bad. I won't repeat the entire story here, but let's just say that not only did Honda not stand behind their car, they actually sent me two letters from the zone office one of which was both accusatory and insulting and a second which was just plain stupid. I haven't bought anything since that bears the Honda name nor will I. Matt >> This is as objective an answer as I can come up with to defend my >> previous postings stating I will buy a Honda next time. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Matt My first brand new car was a Dodge Aries. Major problems. My 2nd brand new car was a Buick Skylark, blown tranny at 35,000 miles, not covered. My 3rd brand new car was a Saturn LS2, still more problems and very expensive ones. My last new car was my 2004 Sonata. It's been problem free and it's at 65,000 miles now. I always do the scheduled maintenance on all my cars. The Dodge, Buick and Saturn all had very expensive repairs after the warranty was up. My Sonata has been the best new car I've ever bought. It still runs like a new car and I will definitely buy another Hyundai. But my best car ever was my used 1966 Dodge Dart with the slant 6 engine. I could do all the work myself, the parts were cheap and the engine lasted 200,000 miles until I totaled the car out in a snowstorm. But I sold the motor to a friend who put it in a bread truck and it still ran for 3 more years. Auto makes don't make cars to last anymore, otherwise people wouldn't buy new cars every 5 or 6 years. And the parts are 20X as much as they used to be. Brian |
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