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2004 Sonata Transmission Fluid
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Brian Matthews - 16 Dec 2008 21:19 GMT Is there a special transmission fluid I need to use to add or flush an automatic, 6 cylinder 2004 Sonata? The owner's manual is somewhat confusing. I really don't want to void the warranty by adding the wrong fluid. TYIA for any/all help.
Brian
TheIceAge05 - 16 Dec 2008 23:22 GMT > Is there a special transmission fluid I need to use to add or flush an > automatic, 6 cylinder 2004 Sonata? The owner's manual is somewhat > confusing. I really don't want to void the warranty by adding the > wrong fluid. TYIA for any/all help. > > Brian Your 2004 Sonata tranny fluid is "Diamond ATF SP3" which can only be bought at Hyundai, Kia or Mitsubishi dealership. Use any other type of fluid, and you will most likely regret it down the road.
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Mike Marlow - 16 Dec 2008 23:25 GMT > Is there a special transmission fluid I need to use to add or flush an > automatic, 6 cylinder 2004 Sonata? The owner's manual is somewhat > confusing. I really don't want to void the warranty by adding the > wrong fluid. TYIA for any/all help. > > Brian In what way is it confusing Brian?
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Rev. Tom Wenndt - 17 Dec 2008 08:50 GMT Brian - if finding a Hyundai/Kia/Mitsubishi dealer is hard due to distance, or the price they charge for Diamond ATF SPIII (I think it is actually IV now) is prohibitive, just recently, Castrol has started making an IMPORT Multi-Vehicle ATF.
It is the first multi-vehicle ATF that is not a Dexron-based formula, and the first one that lists full compatibility with Hyundai/Kia/Mitsubishi SP-III. It is available through popular auto parts stores like Advance Auto.
But make sure that it is the IMPORT, and not any other one. And make sure you NEVER use any kind of Dexron-based fluid in the transmission. If you do, you will be fine with this.
> Is there a special transmission fluid I need to use to add or flush an > automatic, 6 cylinder 2004 Sonata? The owner's manual is somewhat > confusing. I really don't want to void the warranty by adding the > wrong fluid. TYIA for any/all help. > > Brian TheIceAge05 - 17 Dec 2008 19:50 GMT > Brian - if finding a Hyundai/Kia/Mitsubishi dealer is hard due to > distance, or the price they charge for Diamond ATF SPIII (I think it is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > you NEVER use any kind of Dexron-based fluid in the transmission. If you > do, you will be fine with this. Rev. Tom; If you are suggesting that Hyundai will accept warranty repairs to your transmission, after you put in this Castrol ATF.... I hope that God is by your side in a court of justice, cause their is no way that Hyundai will warranty their transmission with anything else then Diamond ATF SP-3 in it. Castrol list their product as compatible, will they help you out in court, when Hyundai refuses warranty claims? I do all my maintenence myself, but will always make sure to use the recommanded fluid from the car manufactured. You might save a dollar now with Castrol; but how much will you save down the road with a breakdown?!?
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>> Is there a special transmission fluid I need to use to add or flush an >> automatic, 6 cylinder 2004 Sonata? The owner's manual is somewhat >> confusing. I really don't want to void the warranty by adding the >> wrong fluid. TYIA for any/all help. >> >> Brian Rev. Tom Wenndt - 18 Dec 2008 17:55 GMT The two vehicles I have used this fluid in are out of warranty.
And these are transmissions that I get the impression will last far longer than the rest of the car will (not that there is anything wrong with the rest of the car, but something would have to wear out at some point, won't it? But it won't be the transmission).
And, BTW, I contacted my own Hyundai dealer before I did. What they said to me was exactly what I did - SPIII preferred, but use a fluid that is LISTED as compatible with SPIII (or IV) and ABSOLUTELY NO Dexron-based fluid.
>> Brian - if finding a Hyundai/Kia/Mitsubishi dealer is hard due to >> distance, or the price they charge for Diamond ATF SPIII (I think it is [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >>> >>> Brian Brian Matthews - 19 Dec 2008 17:32 GMT >Is there a special transmission fluid I need to use to add or flush an >automatic, 6 cylinder 2004 Sonata? The owner's manual is somewhat >confusing. I really don't want to void the warranty by adding the >wrong fluid. TYIA for any/all help. > >Brian I ended up taking it into the dealer and having them do it. Trans flush and oil change came out to a little over $230.00. Too much, IMO, but since I can't do it myself, my choices were my local mechanic, who would have put in a "compatible" fluid, or the dealer. It's not worth the risk, as others here have pointed out.
While I was at the dealer, I got the price for the timing belt change I'll be needing soon. They quoted me 3 different prices.
1. Timing belt only; $673.08 2. Timing belt and new V-Ribbed belt; $697.54 3. Timing belt, new V-Ribbed belt and water pump; $1228.81
Does the price of option #2 seem too high? Should I get a quote from a different dealer?
Quote #3 is out of the question. The water pump is under warranty until 100,000 miles. I see no reason for making it easier for them at my expense.
Thoughts?
Ed Pawlowski - 19 Dec 2008 18:16 GMT "Brian Matthews" <noonecares@ddd.com> wrote in message
> While I was at the dealer, I got the price for the timing belt change > I'll be needing soon. They quoted me 3 different prices. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thoughts? The difference between #1 and #2 does not seem so bad. #1 and #3 are too high. My thought, check with a good independent shop.
Brian Matthews - 19 Dec 2008 19:34 GMT >"Brian Matthews" <noonecares@ddd.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >#1 and #3 are too high. >My thought, check with a good independent shop. Yes, I would go for #2 for sure if I had the dealer do it. I have a great mechanic I've been going to for many years. Probably close to 18 years or so. Not only are we on a first name basis, but he always does small repairs for me for nothing. For instance, I had a burned out tail-light on my Saturn and he caught it. (I didn't know about it) He put a new one in there and when I asked him how much? He just waved me off and told me to have a nice day. He has a professional shop with the same workers for years. But when I bring my cars in, he works on them himself. He's put free clamps on my exhaust system, greased up my hood cable and has done several other thing, all at no cost. He even allows me in the repair bay while he works on my car, something just about every shop won't allow because of insurance reasons. He also doesn't gouge me (or others) on parts. Sure, there's a mark up, but not like every other place. For instance? When my Sonata needed brakes, I got the price from the dealer and it was something like $1200.00 for all 4 pads and 4 rotors. Abe (my mechanic) did the job for something like $600.00. I don't remember the exact numbers, just that it was a no-brainer. I remember the dealer told me it was a 6 to 9 hour labor charge and my mechanic had the entire job done in 3 1/2 hours. And that was waiting for the parts too.
That being said? I'm not sure if I want him to do the timing belt. Not that I don't trust him, more because of the extended warranty I have. I really don't want to get it voided out if the engine fails. But I'll tell you what, when I was at the dealer yesterday, they told me the price to change my spark plugs (6 cylinder) It was crazy and went in one ear and out the other. I know it's a little tricky getting to these plugs, but Abe can do it for probably about 1/3 of the cost. I'll supply the plugs, bought from the dealer and all I'll pay is labor.
Anyway, I went on a rant. Sorry. That's what happens when I start discussing ripoff dealers. So to make a short story long, thanks for the advice. : )
Brian
Partner - 20 Dec 2008 04:17 GMT >"I'll supply the plugs, bought from the dealer and all I'll pay is labor."
Dealer wants $20 for each plug, you can buy at auto-zone for 10.
>>"Brian Matthews" <noonecares@ddd.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Brian Plague Boy - 20 Dec 2008 04:35 GMT <snip>
> While I was at the dealer, I got the price for the timing belt change > I'll be needing soon. They quoted me 3 different prices. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thoughts? Datapoint: The Hyundai dealer here quoted me $400 for the timing belt, and $600 with the water pump.
I was told here that was too high for the water pump, since the labor is essentially the same.
I am still thinking of doing it myself in the spring; my 2002 Sonata 2.7 is out of warranty.
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