LOL  There is nothing funnier and scarier than someone who doesn't know how
stupid they are.

Sorry 631 where was it you said "the other side of the story" again?
After reading about all your other extraneous stuff the answer escaped me.

I'm afraid I don't know about the Farm/Environmental Bill that you refer
to.  I googled farm bill and didn't come up with anything that seemed
relevant and then I went to the govtrack/congress/search bill and didn't
find anything there either.  Do you have an HR #?  You certainly will
get no argument from me that Congress is not doing there job and that
goes across party lines.  The business of Congress seems to be to get
reelected and anything else is a bonus.

If I watch Fox News then I will know who I voted for?  There's so much I
don't understand.  Perhaps I should watch them.

It sounds like you think  there was only one American running in the
last election but I can assure you that with a Supreme Court, who has a
majority of it's members appointed by a Republican, I think it's highly
unlikely that a non-American could be nominated, no less be elected, as
President of the U.S. (At least as a Democrat).  I now that sometimes
certain constitutional issues are kind of winked at but ....

 I kind of have trouble following the logic in your last part.  You say
I appear to be learned and not looking for a free hand out (thank you I
would like to think you are right on both counts), but then you go on to
say I am either from NE or a young idealist who hasn't learned anything
yet.  Being neither of these, and since you are from the Athens, GA area
and also not a young idealist it sounds like we are in the same boat.  I
appreciate your empathy and wish to extend my sympathies to you and your
offspring.  I know how hard it is to accept someone so antithetical to
be your President but look on the bright side.  At least you aren't a
heartbeat away from having Sarah as your president.

As I've said on previous posts (and arguments with you) that when 40-50 mpg
is the norm in Europe, to say 30 mpg is good here is calling us a third
world country.  Please don't bring up the emissions copout since Europe is
more Green than we are.  Hell, my Sedona, just like yours, gets 30+ mpg.
For a little car like the HHR or Cobalt to get the same mileage is sick.

Yeah - I supposed I might be a bit predictable at times.  I'm just so tired
of that phrase "gas guzzlers", and it always seems to get thrown out there
for the effect, rather than a valid argument point.  I do agree that it
seems we well ought to be able to expect mileage numbers in the 40's now,
without any radical designs.  30's was great for a generation of cars, and I
applaud GM for having lead the pack in producing as many cars as they did,
for as long as they did, that achieved that kind of mileage.  But, like you,
I believe it's time to advance on that front.  I really like both of the
Sonatas we own (04 and 06), and I have almost nothing but good to say about
them, but the one thing that struck me with each one of them was that the
mileage compared to my GM cars was actually somewhat off.  Not so bad as to
make owning either one a bad experience, but it is hard at first to accept a
new car getting a couple/few less miles per gallon that what you owned
before it.

Curiously enough, the Cobalt with Auto transmission gets 4 MPG less than the
stick!  That is very unusual in today's advanced automatic technology.
Usually the auto trans' are getting the same or maybe one mpg less than
stick, but 4?????

I'm anxious to see more advances in electric, but in self-generating
electric.  Diesel generator locomotives have advanced great strides in the
tonnage they can move on a gallon of diesel fuel, and it sure seems that the
technology they employ could be migrated to cars.  I'm not at all interested
in seeing any more introductions that require the own to plug the car into
the wall to charge it up.